by Newly Enlightened 11530 Replies latest watchtower scandals
It's not well regulated, so people need to be smart and cautious when deciding where to spend money.
I agree with your entire comment. Lloyd gives the impression that he NEEDS peoples financial support to get the “ groundbreaking resource” off the ground, appealing to the vulnerability of people who hate the cult. This is far from the reality of his true intentions.
I don't think your scamming people, I do think you're taking advantage of people that don't know any better. You should take some classes on the profession of writing, you might learn how to do it right.
This is the well written, eloquent version of exactly how I feel.
His book was self published and there was no barrier to entry.
Correct, that is the point I am making about crowdfunding a creative work. If he said he needed the funds to print the book, he was either misinformed or a liar. But the idea of paying an advance is to provide the author with funds while he is working on the book. Crowdfunding replaces that when there is no outside publisher. Sure, you can create the work and publish it without crowdfunding, which is also a great option (and keeps you free from any obligations, so you can manage it yourself). But it's a nice option to have, if you want/need some up-front money to get your project off the ground.
There are some hidden costs to self-publishing. What comes to mind are my uncle's books. He partly funds research costs from profits, and that kind of research can be very expensive, and royalties never cover those costs. But Uncle B doesn't have a Patreon account. He has a link to paypal on his blog but the contributions from that source are few and far between. [https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/] So the money to pay for scans and photocopies or original books and pamphlets if they can't be found online or in a library comes out of his own pocket.
Lloyd? I don't care what people contributed to his stupidity. That's their "look out." But the amount contributed by others calls into question the validity of his positive Amazon reviews. Especially since his writing would not receive a passing grade in a middle school class.
Lloyd gives the impression that he NEEDS peoples financial support to get the “ groundbreaking resource” off the ground,
Yes. I donated lots of money because the impression was he was struggling financially.
The title of his book is the giveaway of the reality: The Reluctant Apostate. He's not an "apostate" because he saw through and objected to anything, he's only an apostate because THEY got sick of HIM and kicked his fat lazy ass out so he couldn't keep taking advantage of the congregation for free labor (notice: he always has other people doing the actual work).
He didn't "see the truth", he lost his privileged position because he was a sleazy grubby man taking advantage of it and finally even daddy couldn't bail him out any more. How many people did he judge all while he was breaking the rules? Does he write about those? No, it's all him, him, him.
Next he'll be a reluctant ex-ex-JW, well, one can only hope ...
The title of his book is the giveaway of the reality: The Reluctant Apostate. He's not an "apostate" because he saw through and objected to anything
People who knew him from this forum for the most part saw right through it. In his post where he announced he started writing his book, it was clear that he was thinking a publisher would pick it up and give him an advance. He even started making plans for meetups like the Tahoe one "if I get a decent sized advance":. So he wrote two chapters in rapid fashion whilst he was still "cedars" on this forum and sent it off to potential publishers as a sample.
The plan as he described it in his post was to write the book under his real name (no one knew it at the time) and expect a judicial hearing in response to publication. Then he was to get disfellowshipped, and as he put it, this would necessitate the need for a 2nd edition with a final chapter(s) about that incident. More book sales.
What he completely misses is the real exJW experience with DFng and shunning. He had a father he did not respect, a sister he was estranged from, was in a congregation where he could not speak the language, so really what was he missing out on? Disfellowshipping is not a stunt we can make money off of. This is also why his book did not connect on a emotional level with many people.
The plan as he described it in his post was to write the book under his real name (no one knew it at the time)
I actually knew it from day one - he's conniving but isn't the brightest (his email was his and his wife's names which took you straight to his JLE Publishing) but it was clear in hindsight that his concern about his identity and location being revealed wasn't because he wanted to fade so much as it be part of his book-promotion grand-reveal / publicity stunt.
All I've seen of his book is that it's garbage. An endless stream of "and then I did this ... and then this happened ... and then I did that".
No real revelations about the WTS as he has none to share. The only possible insights he has, he doesn't mention - which is how the children of local presiding overseers don't have to live to the same rules that the regular attendees do.
Which is why what he left out about his JC is such a glaring omission and a big deal. There was definitely something he didn't want to come out, which has to be about him (otherwise why hide it?) and serous enough that he thought he could use it as leverage over them. Maybe something he did that was covered up? Who knows, we can only speculate on what may fit the information we can piece together.
He's a fraud, he was a fraud as a JW and now he's a fraud as an apostate. He also fakes being mr happy family man who cares about his wife and kids.
Yeah, you're not a family man if you're screwing hookers at the same time as your wife is expecting, however much it adds to your image for patreon fundraising.
I had no idea that he planned to make a second edition of his crappy book
Perhaps the elders confronted him on something that he didn't want anyone to know about.... 👀
And like someone said can you imagine how dramatic his hearing would be if he'd recorded it? That would be the ultimate thing for him. I can just imagine it now.
"and if you go in to the... uh... Click the link Down below you can watch MY meeting with the elders."
An entire video for him to play the victim? And he doesn't record it or play it?
Very sus
In his post where he announced he started writing his book, it was clear that he was thinking a publisher would pick it up and give him an advance.
Was he not aware that there were already quite a few books from exJWs, talking about the organization and their own experiences? By the time I'd even heard of Lloyd Evans, I had probably read a half-dozen of them. And did he somehow think there was a large market for exJW material? Crisis of Conscience is easily the best known book about the org, and it's never been a best seller. He certainly knew about that book...
It would fit with the personality of a narcissist, if he thought that his book would be the one to break through and become a big seller. He has made a comment or two about moving on due to the supposed toxicity of the exJW community. Maybe he is thinking that his book on the exJW community will be fast-tracked for a Hollywood script if he only offers to write one.
