smiddy3, good. I agree that it doesn’t look like it will close anytime soon. This thread is a journey. People here are discovering other people who exist on this planet in a simultaneous lifetime. And it’s much more than that. As exjws, we have survived a “shared experience”. On every page of this forum, we find similarities and also surprises. That we all find what Evans did (and is probably still doing) ‘unacceptable” draws us together initially. But the drama yet to unfold is contained in “how the story will end”. The story will end when it ends. It hasn’t been written yet. I don’t mean to be flippant, but “don’t hold your breath” hoping for it to end. :) Maybe find a good book to read if you long for an “ending”.
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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JeffT
Maybe find a good book to read if you long for an “ending”.
I can't help myself. I have six novels for sale on Amazon.com. Two of them have some connection to my time as a JW. No two of them come up to the page count of "The Reluctant Apostate." PM me if you want a link to buy one.
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Vintage
That's a fantastic idea, JeffT, and very apropo..
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Vintage
On a different theme,
Four JW's accused of CSA. One has killed himsef. Other three are in custody.
It's short, and it's a must-read. Finally it's happening.
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Toblerone5
OH HELL NO! Again? Why does those youtuber don't do some RESEARCH before Interviewing douchebag like that one ! Sickening! i didnt even want to post that filthy video on this forum.
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TonusOH
I don't take issue with his desire to make it so long, but a first-time author will have trouble finding a publisher who is willing to offer an advance for such a large book. I think most agents would see the size of it and drop it in the recycle bin without reading past the title. If he was an established author with a following, he'd get some consideration, sure. I almost wish he'd managed to reach an agreement with a publisher. Imagine what a horror show that would've been!
But that's why I'm glad that there are options for self-publishing now. Everything from a massive memoir to a short booklet can be put up for sale. And if you are savvy enough at marketing, you can do quite well even without massive sales, since most of the earnings go to the author and not to a publishing company. If his books are making money, good for him! And if it saved a publisher, editor, or agent the grief of having to deal with him, the world is a slightly better place overall.
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Toblerone5
Even this ,she put under her video is cringeworthy ! By the way she used to be a devout Mormon. If she had done her HOMEWORK ,she would have seen his stupid " I studied with the mormon video."
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DerekMoors
LOL ... 1.98K subscribers, less than 1000 views as of now, a day later.
I'm not laughing at her, god love anyone calling out their former religion and any cult, etc.
But if that doesn't show just how far Lloyd has fallen and is nowhere near his lofty goal of being a superstar, household name, beloved anti-cult expert, and whatever else we all know he wanted.
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DerekMoors
Yesterday the Pennsylvania Attorney General announced charges against 4 men for preying on 19 victims of CSA, all defendants and [alleged] victims were JWs. One of the men took his life after being charged:
It's all over Twitter of course but not a peep from Lloyd about it.
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Diogenesister
What Evans wrote was a memoir of sorts, although the reviews sounds like he blurred the boundaries between genres, another no-no in the publishing world. I think his whole approach probably screamed "unprofessional" at whoever he was sending proposals
He kinda had to blurr genres because he simply wouldn't have had enough of interest (given people are reading for his content, not his skill as an author and philosophical whimsy. Something I would submit they did with, say, Amber Scorah).
I mean there's been innumerable autobiographies whose point of interest was being a witness. The majority had far more than that to offer. If not the first, they had much to add from being on the Governing Body to working at Bethel, being a CO to missionary work. At the very least they were long time, committed JWs who lived through some of the Watchtowers biggest upheavals. Many were familiar with Watchtowers most influential protagonists with stories few can tell.
Lloyd was a provincial JW. Relatively young he'd led too average yet sheltered a life to be interesting or relatable. If the inner workings of a secretive religion were of interest, he'd been an elder for less than 9 months so the only judicial he had to report was his own. He'd left for the most pedestrian of reasons with the only points of interest involving a salaciousness that was Less "Carry on Vicar" and more "Jim'l fix it" (allegedly...)