It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Vintage

  Smiddy3, "shenanigans"? Maybe. But there's nothing cute or amusing about LE's activities.

  she·nan·i·gans

  1. secret or dishonest activity or maneuvering.

     • silly or high-spirited behavior; mischief.

       
       

       
       
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  lloydevansparody

  Can we get off Lloyd and his shennanigans and get back to some wholesome discussions ?

  There are some nice topics on this forum. Feel free to contribute on those in a positive manner if you don't want to open this thread. But we all have a life regardless of what you think. If you want a break, fine but it is not up to us. Perhaps you may consider to change your online presence habits. Best
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  Vintage

  Debra, please listen to the people who have corrected you regarding "Thailand". I noticed your mistake many pages back, the first time you said it. But someone else corrected you. I thought that would be enough, so I didn't say anything that first time.
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  Thisismein1972

  Smiddy3.

  There is such thing as scroll. Sounds like you are actively searching out this thread. There's always the option of ignoring this thread. I know it is a radical idea, but hey, just a thought.
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  Diogenesister

  Debra I have been gathering evidence about your trips abroad London for speed dating, Texas, and of course Thailand every 3 or 4 months for the past five years,

  It was poorly punctuated TonusOH, but I read this statement as meaning he visited all these places for the purposes of sexual encounters every 3 to 4 months. Not necessarily specifically visited Thailand every 3 to 4 months. But I get exactly what you're saying TonusOH, Lloyd certainly won't differentiate between a false statement and a poorly worded one - he will just scream we're all liars!

  FA we do not really know if he went there specifically for sex with prostitutes. Could you please update your evidence to show this? Or do you have evidence we do not know about?

  We do. We have the receipts.

  Aside from the " those I met sex workers or otherwise" Facebook post and the "I dated a sex worker", a You Tube lass named "ExCult Baby" specifically posted he messaged her and confirmed he visited prostitutes in Thailand. An ex supporter of his, she was really angry he was now lying about it.
  

  
  
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  was a new boy

  so many pages...
  I`m sick of turning on this site and here is another post about Lloyd and his exploits ?
  Can we get off Lloyd and his shennanigans and get back to some wholesome discussions ?
  Give me a break.

  Maybe some want this topic to last and last, 'as a warning example' for future wannabe mega activists?
  

  The Letter of Jude1:7
  

  'they are placed before us as a warning example by undergoing the judicial punishment of everlasting fire.'
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  Las Malvinas son Argentinas

  From the Andrew Gold Interview April 14 2022 , Lloyd Evans said about Thailand ,and I quote : I dated a sex-worker.

  He not only admitted he was dating a sex worker to Andrew Gold, but also to @ThaiPleasures:
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  “Seeing” one meant “dating” one and he’s clear that he didn’t pay for sex. So he stepped off the aeroplane and soon after that met and was dating a local woman romantically who also happened to be a sex worker.

  
  

  I’m guessing they saw each other on her night off? Did she meet Lloyd, decide he was worth pursuing and applied for and received time off from her trafficker boss? If she were freelance, she chose to miss out on a week’s worth or more of pay so she could date Lloyd?

  Lloyd is quick to paint everyone who says he went to Thailand and paid for sex as a liar. He does this for a reason: to wriggle his way out of the scandal and claim he is not compromised as a CSA advocate. However, his Facebook post on 3 February 2022 contradicts his claim:

  

  Suffice to say, not that its anyone’s business but of those I met in Thailand, sex workers or otherwise…

  Notice the plural form of “sex worker”. This was a carefully crafted statement that had all the paragraphs numbered, so it wasn’t some typo. He admitted something here that he didn’t mean to admit: There was more than one sex worker, which calls into question the statement he made to Andrew Gold.

  He’d have to have dated more than one sex worker during his month on holiday in Thailand. Dating one romantically is preposterous enough, but more than one? Like any clumsy liar, he can’t keep his story straight.

  As he said at the end of the livestream, let the audience adjudicate.

  For my part I would like to paraphrase a famous quote from Soviet dissident Alexander Solzhenitsyn:

  “We know he is lying, he knows he is lying, he knows we know he is lying, we know he knows we know he is lying, but he is still lying.”
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  slimboyfat

  His statement sounded like he was saying that paying for sex in Thailand was fine because it wasn’t the main reason he went to Thailand. That doesn’t make any sense to any normal person, but apparently in LE’s mind, if he went for the beach, but only indulged in the sex as a side interest, then that’s totally different than going for just the sex. Plus he threw in the bizarre racist allegation for good measure.

  None of it makes any sense. It’s like his latest statement about him ‘protecting the ones he loves’. How exactly? By pressuring his wife for an open marriage and leaving his kids behind at Christmas while he went on holiday to Thailand? By ruining his marriage and moving to a different city than his children to be nearer the karaoke nightlife? In what universe does that make any sense whatever?

  He just says stuff that sounds vaguely good even though it bears no relation to reality. He’s relying on people who don’t know the facts to just accept the surface sense feeling of his comments without questioning it.

  I notice he’s tried once again to draw a line under his decline at the end of the year, as if his channel has begun some sort of recovery. Talk about wishful thinking! He tried that last year when he proclaimed that more than half his patrons had stuck with him. Needless to say the numbers have continued to drop, despite his major campaign to sign up new supporters. Plus the quality of his output continues to decline. He might want to draw a line, but 2023 is likely to bring further falls in Patreon numbers.

  I wonder if he will supply the irony of claiming JW numbers for 2022 are bad when they come out.
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  Simon

  He admitted to visiting sex workers, which presumably happened in Croatia.

  I thought on the Gold interview that he said he "dated" a sex worker in Thailand.

  I doubt he meant it like a chaste JW courtship ...

  As Las Malvinas pointed out - he mentions sex workers, plural, and it's his usual word-play misdirection saying that it wasn't his main reason for going.

  The thing anyone interviewing him should ask is when did he last visit a prostitute and how many prostitutes has he visited since telling his wife that he's through doing that ... and did he ever promise his wife that!

  It’s like his latest statement about him ‘protecting the ones he loves’. How exactly?

  By naming his children in his train-wreck video and forever linking them to his scandalous behavior.

  
  
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  NonCoinCollector

  387! Could it be by next month Lloyd Evans reaches his goal of 380 in reverse?