I need to write a book (or more likely a brochure). I should call my creation "Dirty Tricks I've Seen Watchtower Play". Actually, I like that title... I'm getting more enthusiastic about writing a book by the minute. The Shepherd the Flock book provides elders with one Machiavellian proceedure after another.
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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llubrevlis2000
LE latest livestream isn’t from the studio
no explanation given
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llubrevlis2000
My guess is that he had a lot of previously recorded videos before he lost the studio and will slowly releases these, but as for livestreams he looks like he is set up somewhere very very cheap and dismal.
no explanation or excuses like mould instead of saying the truth “in laws kicked me out when my wife finally decided to divorce me”
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TonusOH
I haven't watched his video with Tibor. I don't watch his videos, so it's easy to miss. Nor do I plan to watch it, it sounds quite long and boring.
Anyway, I have no issue with him doing it, since it will only bring more attention to this topic. And however he tries to frame it, it's a pretty damning topic. Need we remind him that the issue is that he admitted, in his own YouTube livestream, to being an awful husband, father, and all-around shitty human being? His problem is not about what others are saying about him. It's about what he admitting to doing, and his lack of remorse.
So, by all means, please keep referring to this topic and this forum. Let's see how many of your followers will be tempted to read the thread and ask questions and discover who you really are. And how many of them will not be your followers after they learn more about you.
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WingCommander
Hey Tibor:
Do you do Lloyd's laundry as well? Get his drycleaning? Go with him to the gym to train his chicken legs and triple-chins?
Maybe you can talk him into eating a salad and some humble pie?
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
My guess is that he had a lot of previously recorded videos before he lost the studio
How do we know he lost the studio? Did he say he was shutting it down for sure? I know he threatened "drastically scale down" in his begging tweet but that's the last I heard of it.
If he is indeed shutting it down, then what's he doing with the "amazing response" he crowdfunded as a result of his begging? I thought that was to save Ramacro? If he's shutting it down anyway, all those people just gave him what amounts to personal donations and he's in violation of his 280 patrons promise of enhancing his studio. He even stated he "won't turn the lights out on Ramacro just yet". So he ended shutting it down anyway despite the money he received to save it?
FYI - he's at 412 Patrons, which is a gain of 6 from the monthly drop. If he doesn't get it to round 420 in a couple weeks, he'll likely drop below 400 again, thus wiping out most of his gains from the bump he gained from begging.
I'm curious because if he's not at least keeping the status quo at 400+ patrons plus whatever he got through Paypal, this is one hell of a scam he's running even by Lloyd standards.
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Toblerone5
How do we know he lost the studio?
The first video he made in the studio , was in sept 2022. I think he said that he sign a lease for one year ( in the Ramacro video... ) When he does the rebuttal for the JW broadcast for February , we will see if he still have the studio...
but as for livestreams he looks like he is set up somewhere very very cheap and dismal.
L.O.L. that's where he lives...A one bedroom apartment in an attic... I think he will do more and more live video in there, He said the studio is half an hour drive , and also he doesn't need to pay Tibor for them too...
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
that's where he lives...A one bedroom apartment in an attic... I think he will do more and more live video in there, He said the studio is half an hour drive , and also he doesn't need to pay Tibor for them too...
It seems plausible that Tibor lives at Ramacro. I watched the video tour and it had two bedrooms in addition to the studio, a living area, toilet facilities, a kitchen and laundry room. That's a lot of room to just let sit idle. And 30 minutes from his attic in the centre of Zagreb places you out of the city. It's actually half the way to Sisak if it is in that direction. Lloyd says he pays $450 for his flat in the centre of Zagreb. This might be about the same or even less if it is in a more rural locality. The right to live there might make up most if not all of Tibor's salary.
Since Tibor stated that he had difficulty getting a job in Croatia and that Lloyd is his only employer ever, he probably lived with his mother up until last year.
Also plausible is that Dijana and the girls live there, but Tibor seems more likely. There has to be someone living there one would think.
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Vintage
It sounds like we need "feet on the ground" in Croatia to get definite answers to some of our questions.
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raymond frantz
Sounds like he is quietly downgrading, soon he will be filming from a barrel