It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (page 956)

slimboyfat

No wonder he wants to avoid his Zoom chats at all costs. These are people, despite everything, who are still sending him $20 plus month. Imagine what a freak gallery that must be. Plus in his leaked video it looked like he was speaking to the Zoom call as if it was some sort of board meeting where the CEO describes the quarterly activity of the company. Except the difference is that shareholders get a cut of the profits when the company does well. Lloyd bragging about JLE media activity, with minimal actual reference to JWs, to patrons sending him money, seems a pretty weird setup.

His regular videos are struggling to get more than 3K views now. Are even his patrons watching his output at this point? (Not that LE cares, as long as they keep sending him money)

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Plus in his leaked video it looked like he was speaking to the Zoom call as if it was some sort of board meeting where the CEO describes the quarterly activity of the company.

I’ve piggybacked onto a few. He opens the meeting with some grandoise language and platitudes about how appreciative he is with the support, and how WT is crumbling, basically things he knows the audience wants to hear. At some point he’ll excuse himself for various reasons, mostly “business” reasons but sometimes you can hear children’s voices in the background.

He’ll keep it open under the watchful eye of a moderator, usually Leica Fox. He encourages everyone to introduce themselves and to make conversation but he’ll hardly ever participate.

He’ll return later to wrap it up and end the call. It’s really useless and is just a hamster wheel of sorts to make his followers think there’s a compelling reason that they do this.

Simon

The thing is, he was on the way to building one. He had a concept, that concept (reaction/commentary videos) is (inexplicably, IMO) popular on YouTube, he had a staff that was doing most of the work and letting him focus on the parts he wanted to do

That's what I mean though - it's not really self-sustaining. It relies on both donations and donated effort from others. No one will do these things unless he keeps acting like a performing monkey.

This is vintage Lloyd. For an amateur open mic night, which of course offers no compensation, Lloyd still wants aspiring "musicians" to apply for the "job". Oh, and he wants samples of a few recordings these people have made of themselves. Who is qualified to judge whether an amateur musician is qualified to sit for an Open Mic night? Lloyd Evans of course. He's a musician! Thought he was busy saving lives?

He's trying to set himself up as a gatekeeper / rent-seeker - eventually, for anyone to get to perform, they will have to pay a "fee" to be approved.

Journeyman

This is vintage Lloyd. For an amateur open mic night, which of course offers no compensation, Lloyd still wants aspiring "musicians" to apply for the "job". Oh, and he wants samples of a few recordings these people have made of themselves. Who is qualified to judge whether an amateur musician is qualified to sit for an Open Mic night? Lloyd Evans of course. He's a musician!

He's trying to set himself up as a gatekeeper / rent-seeker - eventually, for anyone to get to perform, they will have to pay a "fee" to be approved.

What a thought.He must think he could be a promoter, manager and impresario. Like one of these blokes.

It's obviously all about control. And exploiting whoever he can for money.

The mind boggles.

MeanMrMustard

He's trying to set himself up as a gatekeeper / rent-seeker - eventually, for anyone to get to perform, they will have to pay a "fee" to be approved.

He will give out awards - each in the shape of an uncontrollable penis. The golden Lloyd penis award! Ceremonies held in Thailand, of course.

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

He must think he could be a promoter, manager and impresario. Like one of these blokes.

Simon Cowell had a dark wit about him and was genuinely humorous. Lloyd Evans has a lame sense of humour (see the standup routine video) that relies on dick/dildo jokes and vulgarities.

He's trying to set himself up as a gatekeeper / rent-seeker - eventually, for anyone to get to perform, they will have to pay a "fee" to be approved.

I believe this. But it’s not too well thought through. These entertainment organisers are excellent social networkers and this guy can’t even speak the local language and easily takes offence.

Sure, he may have helpers who can interpret, but these aren’t vulnerable ex-cult members and the minute money gets brought into the equation, the question will be asked: what exactly does this guy do again? He wants the lion’s share of the money but relies on us to interpret for him and make connections?

Lloyd is also so horrible at interpersonal relations. There are a lot of lows with this kind of business. Maybe the crowd is light and the applause almost nonexistent.

“What do you mean the crowd was light? I had at least 5 people tell me that very night we were the best live music Zagreb has ever seen. A local periodical wrote a fawning article about us! I suggest you do a better job of advertising the event if you are upset about the attendance! There are many other venues who have asked us to perform!”

He’ll be trying to sell amateur acts who should feel flattered to even get the stage. And why would any established acts have any need for Lloyd Evans?

Imagine being a club owner and this hook nosed ugly ass clown shows up and speaks only English.

”Sorry, English not too good. But €200 for payment one night - no good!”

”I suggest you contact the many fans of Lloyd Evans Entertainment. I challenge you to find anyone else in Zagreb that is doing such a quality job as we are doing. Don’t worry, I’ll wait. I get stopped on the street all the time by many fans of not only myself but also my associates. I’ve even signed autographs before. If you think €200 is too much, Lloyd Evans Entertainment will not only take our business to the House of Spunk, but we’ll organise boycotts of your coffee shop.”

Lloyd only knows how to take advantage of already vulnerable and gullible people. His schtick will not fly in the secular world. The owners love him now because he’s doing this for free on otherwise listless Monday nights. The minute he starts asking for money, he’ll quickly find out that his current exJW grift is much easier than getting establishments to compensate him based on real talent and purely business considerations.

No one is buying. He thrives on manipulating former cult members into giving him a blank cheque.

JeffT

That's what I mean though - it's not really self-sustaining. It relies on both donations and donated effort from others. No one will do these things unless he keeps acting like a performing monkey.

Lloyd's little empire is also dependent on a constant stream of "new light" from the Watchtower. If they don't come out with something new, he can't come out with something new; and the GB can go months, maybe years, without publishing a new thought.

So the WTBS recycles some old crap and Lloyd recycles his commentary on the recycled crap. Clearly,he did not consider this when he put together his business plan (such as it is.)

P S Simon Cowell had an established name in the music industry when he broke into the big time. I don't think of Croatia as the kind of place where that happens.

Diamondfrog

His club is really popular. 5 likes so far.

Diogenesister

Guessing "unconfirmed" is the translation app getting "unsigned" wrong.

🤦🏻‍♀️So now he's an unsigned musician as well as internationally renowned film maker and author, too.

Being able to strum a few chords doesn't make you a musician Lloyd.

TonusOH

Simon: He's trying to set himself up as a gatekeeper / rent-seeker - eventually, for anyone to get to perform, they will have to pay a "fee" to be approved.

Looks like he is trying to become the Croatian underground music scene's version of Harvey Weinstein. That should end well.

It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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