2019-11-25-BOE--Watchtower Wants More Money!

by Atlantis 26 Replies latest jw friends

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  LV101

  Not one handout I'm aware of helped the flakey JWs -- just validated their entitlement status and career of con acting. They're in the halls for handouts/jobs and anything they can grab even preying on their own family members who receive disability/social security, etc. Some of us have first hand experience with these cons who can't hold down a normal job. A couple receiving handouts were doing show business pioneering for the in-circle for hall status/friendships.

  Maybe the GB goon squad should start a work program and set up auto-pay (commission) for their services once their con members have new patterns/work ethics. After all they are masters at manipulation.
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  LongHairGal

  LV101:

  Your description describing ‘flakey JWs’ with ‘entitlement status’ and ‘career of con acting’ is an unfortunate description that fits certain JWs from what I remember.

  I really resented them because I was criticized for having a full time job.. I considered anybody a fool for giving money to people who either didn’t want to work or who lived on the edge looking for handouts. Some of these people weren’t all that flaky and knew exactly what they were doing.

  Looking back and analyzing it, the people who threw money at these JWs were older people who would be in their late 80s+ today. And you know what? ALL these older people were comfortable retirees getting a pension OR a JW married to a non-JW who let them do their ‘thing’ in the religion..Problem is: these people are all passing away and there are hardly any of them left..Any deadbeat pioneers of the future will be shit out of luck if they expect anything similar from younger people left in the religion!

  All this makes me so glad I got out years ago..and SO right that I resisted peer pressure and held onto my job until retirement. I wouldn’t want to be around any of this garbage now!
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  LV101

  LongHair - I'm sure the sistas would have been much more comfy with you in poverty and begging especially since you were single and if even if married. That's their comfort zone. I saw the reality very early in -- unfortunately, elders would hound me or pull me aside begging (pimping) for their faves. I did respect the elders at that point in time. Had heard horror about one elder and his kids - dealt with it personally and OMG, but didn't blame the kids. Now I'd tell them to find another sucker. One horror drama after the other - what a pathetic cult!

  Yep - we all dealt with the career hearings -- no dance/sports, education, careers. I really enjoyed the long despot personal studies of where to live, size of house, stores to shop at to fit in - omigoodness. I saw the non-education for my child/nephew/niece as huge red flags when I was still asleep. Loser cult! I carried on and wasn't about to change my life.
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  LongHairGal

  LV101:

  Yes, all that is true.

  BUT..the issue I find most upsetting - and which I haven’t seen addressed anywhere (except by ME)...is the fact that ALL the older people in the congregations when I came in the late seventies (post ‘75) were once in the workforce and collecting a decent pension; some had a business and were prosperous. Others were older affluent with an ‘unbelieving mate’ who gave them a cushy lifestyle.

  It was THESE people who gave money to deadbeat pioneers. It was these people who saw to it that I was never invited to special gatherings because of my full time job. Meanwhile, these hypocrites were collecting a pension because somebody was in the workforce!!!

  Just about all these people have passed away..If they were still living I would track them down and write them a letter telling them I am retired and how GLAD I am that I never listened to the nonsense...You know what the saddest part is? If some dope listened to the nonsense about quitting their job and was now unable to retire: these affluent older hypocrites are not even around to help anybody who was foolish enough to have listened to them!!

  This is the problem with the JW religion: nobody from years ago is accountable. There are just new victims. People die and aren’t around to see the mess that’s left behind...I guess I got out by the skin of my teeth. What a life lesson learned!
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  LV101

  LongHair - I understand where you're coming from and they were/are hypocrites. As I was told the cult makes people jump through the hoops and an ex-Bethelite (they were very good humans, btw) told a couple of newbys so many people wanting to become JWs (during the late 80s) the 'society' (gag) made it difficult - all the baptism questions, rules, etc. Many you knew certainly hung in long enough for their retirement and I'm sure had no problem as members. Cults are not accountable and are lawless. At least you didn't fall for the crazy although they excluded you which is evil and they got away with it -- for a time. They'll prey on new vics and the bully cycle repeats itself -- members become burdens to the tax payers/more socialism. This is where the gov't needs to step in -- it's welfare/disability fraud like under Obama's reign. I know so many people who played the disability card. Heard for yrs about the JWs who went off on mental issues deceiving the gov't to finance their way through the cult - unreal. No wonder our country is equal (within few points) of the Netherland's socialization. The JW cult alone drives up the numbers.

  A life lesson for sure - lol "skin of my teeth" - scary! It's health devastating and how people stay for their friends is beyond me. I do understand the elderly holding on. I was told you can't walk away from "friends" (gag) because sooner or later you run out. So be it!!
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  pepperheart

  I think that the rason that the watchtower is short of money is that lots of branches in the thirld world are not paying their way.
  
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  Vidiot

  @ pepperheart...

  How can they? They're poor as shit.

  Not to mention that all those pedo settlements aren't gonna pay themselves.