David Splane's apostate warning convention talk (page 2)

neat blue dog

Hopefully this will be shared in the upcoming court cases against the gb with all those involved.

Yes and watch them squirm and backpedal like the cowardly hypocrites they are . . . Oh wait that's called Theocratic Warfare ® so it's all good.

It was the emergence of the "apostate" enemy as the necessity of instituting the need to obey the "slave" in the mid 1980's that made me aware things were not right. I was a elder all the way through the 1975 fiasco, so was well aware of the failure of Matt. 24:34. The building project in Walkill did not set right as they explained they were preparing for post Armageddon building needs.

It was not until the Kingdom Hall loan forgiveness did the picture become clear. 1979-1983 were empty years. We were even told in about 1982 that if we wanted 'new light' we would have to do personal study and find it ourselves. In about 1984 two things happened; the 'two day' Kingdom hall build and the 'obedience to the organization mantra'.

1975 was it, as far as Matt.24:34. The 'oracle' Franz could not come up with ideas that could perpetuate fictional 'last generation'. The church had two problems; cash flow, as sale of books and mags. had became taxable and intellectual content to replace Matt.24:34.

The interest on the KH building loans, remodel loans provided cash flow.

The 'intellectual content' was addressed by the "obedience to the organization mantra" in that it actually had the intent to shut down minds. I was sharp enough to recognize the scam.

On this site I am one dimensional. I only have one topic which is the 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?". The year was 1987, three years after the inception of the "obedience to the organization mantra". That article was written for a specific purpose. It created a hunting license to hunt down "apostates"!

The KH loan forgiveness provided the hind sight that in the years of 1979-1983 the WTB&TS made the switch from being a religious work of Fred Franz fiction into being a criminal RICO conspiracy to hide Matt.24:34 failure by shutting down minds and criminalizing free thinking in order to build a world wide real estate empire and create cash flow by the interest generated from loans which paid for WTB&TS real estate portfolio.

I was told 6 months prior to the Candace Conti case news release, that the molestation issue would break the back of the church.

Splane's talk shows that the church is shaking in their boots over the Anderson/Zalkin law suites. I do believe the "great tribulation" is about to begin!

EverApostate

First and foremost why do they term anything against them as Poison?

If a poisonous apostate thinking can wreck your faith, sorry brother, your faith is very weak and without any foundation.

How do we determine its poison? What if it’s a life saving medicine? You need not taste anything to check out a Poisonous thing but there are a million other ways to determine if it’s a Poison or a life saving medicine.

Nobody can poison us NOT to believe that the sun or the moon Exists. If that is so, why does an argument against God or the WT so powerful and devastates faith?

road to nowhere

The scripture in question says, "Does not the ear test out words as the tongue tastes food?"

Or in my case I refuse to eat my broccoli. No idea how it tastes.

As for just attending meetings ; the model pretend skits are NOT what you really observe

waton

The scripture in question says, "Does not the ear test out words as the tongue tastes food?"

rtn: yeah, at meetings/assemblies, it was like: 'in one ear, out the other', never could remember any, after the sessions. because it did not really add to my understandings.

The key word is test, allowed to test,ideas sifted out by lingering questions. like a chef that brings up the taste to it's finest, then serves.

Of Course we dont want to be 'beefeaters', or gluttons of useless pulp.

WokenfromJWcult

Whenever I see a documentary about the witnesses , I DVR them and turn it on at times when my spouse has company from her congregation over and see their reaction or how they defend the indefensible . Even when the local news has a story about some elder abusing children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-n4mB_OwTpQ

Biahi

Wow, wokenfrom, when did this air?

JW GoneBad

Wow, wokenfrom, when did this air?

Google shows this CSA case aired around November 2014...there's also an article about this case on October 2012.

Me.Wonderful

The obsession with ex members is something I was felt like was a little off. It’s one of my earliest memories.

Today it’s literally a no good zone for me. It’s absolutely makes my skin crawl.

Phizzy

EverApostate makes some great observations above , it was thoughts like those that began my (too) slow waking up.

I am convinced that similar thoughts will stir in many a JW. I do hope so, then this pathetic rubbish Talk with all its Straw Man Fallacies will do more harm than good !

I know it will reinforce the thicko J.W.s in their idea that anything negative is "Apostate Lies" so they stick their fingers in their ears, to that extent Devious Splane will have achieved what he wants, but it eventually means that anyone with an ounce of Critical Thinking skills, several sparking brain cells and a conscience of their own, will have left.

The remaining J.W's will just be pathetic Mind Controlled Zombies.

David Splane's apostate warning convention talk