5...I'm just glad I wasn't one the dumb asses or... is it sheeples, to trust my very scientific surgeon.
The Old Age
by Caupon 81 Replies latest jw friends
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cofty
All dating techniques are based on assumptions. - Syd
This is factually incorrect and demonstrates a wilful ignorance of how science works.
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cofty
One-Day it was scientists who discovered that some ulcers are caused by bacteria.
Surgery was the best treatment available at one time and it saved lives. The progress in medical knowledge in recent years is astonishing.
You are attacking a straw man. It's discovering what we don't yet know, or disproving what we believe erroneously, that motivates scientists.
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KateWild
Carbon dating is a widely recognised technique and trustworthy. This thread is nonsense.
Kate xx
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cofty
Science becomes the new ultimate truth. Questioning it, doubting any part of it is heresy. Science denier!! - Syd
On the contrary attacking anything that we currently believe to be true - and doing so with evidence - will get you nominated for a Nobel Prize.
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One_day
No Cofty, surgery did not save lives at all. I had a good talk to my doctor later. My very scientific doctor said surgery caused considerable grief.
Surgery for this problem proved to very unscientific, actually positively stupid.
Anyway, I just mentioned this one thing because I'm familiar the story and they were Australians that discovered he bacteria.
There are many, many stories of where 'science' has failed even killed those that trusted it.
But of course we have pure science.
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cofty
But of course we have pure science
Absolutely nobody ever said that.
Who is this straw man you are attacking?
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cofty
No Cofty, surgery did not save lives at all.
Yes it did. Lots of people died of bleeding stomach ulcers without surgery. It is no longer necessary since SCIENTISTS discovered ulcers could be treated with antibiotics.
That's how science works.
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prologos
LisaRose5 hours ago
"There is a huge difference between science and religious belief. Science is tested, retested, challenged--
If religion were the only source of knowledge, we would still believe the sun revolved around the earth."
The wt religion pretends to operate like bible-based science too, ( like Usher*, Newton*}, calculating from bible data the old age , the beginning and end of the world the advent of the first humans (ha), then making predictions 1914, 1925, 1975 2075? and observing what happens and then-- back to the drawing board.
Astronomy,, on the other hand is a "hard" science and it could, and did make predictions even from the wrong ptolemaic earth-centred view, using the epi-circles, like a little lazy susan turning on bigger ones; even Copernicus* was stuck with that concept, until Kepler*, Newton showed the elliptical orbits about barycenters.
These were not stabs in the dark like the religious speculations based on the talking snake books.
I trust science --to show the way, in my old age too
**** all religious men, escaping from the constraints of the frozen mindset.
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One_day
Yes it did. Lots of people died of bleeding stomach ulcers without surgery.
Well there you go. My scientific doctor said the operation caused more grief than it was worth. But hey that's science. Its like opinions, just pick your favourite one or your favorite scientist or your favorite scientific interpretation.