Jessica Lynch Book Trouble

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  Simon

  Who should she pay money too?

  People in the same vehicle? I the same convoy? In the same brigade? In the same army?

  They will have to embelish the book as much as they embelished the news otherwise people will look very dumb. To remind everyone of the real story:

  They got lost in the desert (maybe she was reading the map?). They crashed (or maybe she was driving?). She got picked up & taken care of by the Iraqi's. At the hospital she was given priority treatment even though she was part of an invading army (what monsters they are), given the only bed etc... They tried to take her back to the Americans but got shot at. The "intelligence" of where she was consisted of them ringing up to tell them where she was. A publicity stunt was staged showing her getting "rescued" (they needed some good PR at the stage in the war).

  All in all, I don't think she and the whole episode is a good advert for the US military. There are I'm sure much better stories of real endeavour and heroism which I would rather read about. I wonder at the mentality of people who would read such a book as this knowing it to be all bogus.

  Now, I seem to remember that she had conveniently "lost her memory" ... perhaps the $1m book offer jogged it a little?
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  wednesday

  sure simon, i believe our soliders risked their life to do a fake rescue. NOT.
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  teejay

  >>>> I wonder at the mentality of people who would read such a book as this knowing it to be all bogus.
  
  Me, too, Simon. What's really scary is that these same mentally challenged people are allowed to vote.
  
  >>>>Now, I seem to remember that she had conveniently "lost her memory" ... perhaps the $1m book offer jogged it a little?
  
  "Lost her memory." That's too rich!! :D
  
  At least now we know why she's been hidden from the press since the incident and hasn't given a single interview. She's had to learn her story. So that she could make a cool mil. Look for the made-for-TV movie just after the Republican National Convention -- which is to be held at the site of the WTC.
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  Yerusalyim

  3. She was rescued from an unguarded hospital at zero risk to the soldiers who went in after her

  Ummm, there's no such thing as a "zero risk" to soldiers in a combat zone.

  They will have to embelish the book as much as they embelished the news otherwise people will look very dumb. To remind everyone of the real story:

  So Simon, you're privy to details none of us have?

  They got lost in the desert (maybe she was reading the map?). They crashed (or maybe she was driving?). She got picked up & taken care of by the Iraqi's. At the hospital she was given priority treatment even though she was part of an invading army (what monsters they are), given the only bed etc... They tried to take her back to the Americans but got shot at. The "intelligence" of where she was consisted of them ringing up to tell them where she was. A publicity stunt was staged showing her getting "rescued" (they needed some good PR at the stage in the war).

  First, it was her dumb a$$ed company commander that got them lost. They crashed because they were attacked by a hostile force...after that...we don't know the details...given the experience of every other POW it's highly unlikely she was treated as queen for a day. The Intelligence of where she was was personally delivered. Simon, worst of all...with no basis in fact you accuse the bravest men I have ever meant of having no integrity or honor. You call the rescue a publicity stunt. Simon...I really appreciate you...but you speak from utter ignorance of military affairs on this issue...and you're dead wrong.

  The father of the deceased soldier has a right to his own feelings...he also has a right to write his own book. It's not Lynch's fault the world took an interest in her story.
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  Simon

  sure simon, i believe our soliders risked their life to do a fake rescue.

  Erm ... that's the point - they didn't risk their lives ... she didn't need "rescuing", just picking up !!

  In fact, the only risk she was in was being dropped off the stretcher in the middle of the whole staged / filmed thing.

  Also, she was at risk from the American troops who fired on a group of doctors carrying an injured woman on a stretcher. This point seems to have been overlooked completely.
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  Yerusalyim

  Simon,

  Since you have no military experience you're speaking from complete ignorance. The guys going in to pick her up had no idea if there were Iraqi regulars or Fedeyeen on site or not. When an operation like this is planned you assume that yes...there are enemy soldiers present...so you go in armed to the teeth. This was a COMBAT ZONE...the battlefield is FLUID...it changes quickly and often...to have assumed they could just walk in and pick Lynch up is suicidal. When these guys went in there they had to do so on the assumption that they'd be fired upon.

  Simon...I don't think you realize the kind of insult you're leveling at these guys by making such BASELESS accusations...you'd do better to accuse their mothers of being cheap prostitutes than to question their integrity.

  You say this was staged...a baseless accusation...and I think you owe an apology for it.

  Yes...it was filmed...which most of these operations are.

  Great...there were no enemy around when our guys got there...no one got hurt...we call that a succesful operation in the US military...would you feel better about it had some soldiers died? Really Simon...you should back off of baseless accusations...there is nothing to suggest this was "staged" to make that accusation impugns the integrity and honor of men I know to be the most intelligent...brave...and honest I've ever met. I've never worked with better.
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  maxwell

  Panda said,

  Euph and Max: I see you both mentioned the idea of some future contribution for her slain comrades. Don't you think that her life is in such turmoil now that she won't even think straight until this book thing is done? Do we see Spielberg directing? Thanks for posting.

  I can't make any guesses about her mental condition, but as far as a book that is for the most part autobiographical, if I understand this correctly, she has no legal responsibility, neither, in my opinion, any moral responsibility to share the proceeds. As others posters have said, anyone else has the right to write their own books and let the chips fall where they may. I did wonder whether a movie might require whoever makes the movie (not Jessica Lynch, she can't control payments to anyone except herself to some extent) to pay for the rights to tell the story of others who were involved in the incident. But that is still kind of cloudy to me, considering that many of the others involved are still in the Army legally unable to profit from their position and that a movie could be based on the book. I'm not familiar with any precedents.
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  Simon

  Yeru ... believe what you want.

  http://more.abcnews.go.com/sections/nightline/World/iraq_507convoy030617_pt1.html

  "vehicles from the 507th Maintenance Ordnance Company were accidentally sent in the wrong direction"

  "When I look back on that day, I can see the trouble we were headed for from miles away. Minute by minute, hour by hour, it was obvious it would end that way," one soldier who was part of the convoy told ABCNEWS.

  (why keep going ... duh!)

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,956255,00.html

  Her rescue will go down as one of the most stunning pieces of news management yet conceived. It provides a remarkable insight into the real influence of Hollywood producers on the Pentagon's media managers, and has produced a template from which America hopes to present its future wars.
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  Simon

  Yeru

  I am accusnig the pentagon and the administration of news management and manipulation. I doubt very much whether the actual people on the ground woudl be told the truth - that would be far too risky.

  Yes...it was filmed...which most of these operations are.

  Now, I wonder why we've only seen edited highlights?

  According to some sources:

  The doctors told us that the day before the special forces swooped on the hospital the Iraqi military had fled. Hassam Hamoud, a waiter at a local restaurant, said he saw the American advance party land in the town. He said the team's Arabic interpreter asked him where the hospital was. "He asked: 'Are there any Fedayeen over there?' and I said, 'No'." All the same, the next day "America's finest warriors" descended on the building.

  "We heard the noise of helicopters," says Dr Anmar Uday. He says that they must have known there would be no resistance. "We were surprised. Why do this? There was no military, there were no soldiers in the hospital.

  "It was like a Hollywood film. They cried, 'Go, go, go', with guns and blanks and the sound of explosions. They made a show - an action movie like Sylvester Stallone or Jackie Chan, with jumping and shouting, breaking down doors." All the time with the camera rolling. The Americans took no chances, restraining doctors and a patient who was handcuffed to a bed frame.

  Great...there were no enemy around when our guys got there...no one got hurt...we call that a succesful operation in the US military...would you feel better about it had some soldiers died?

  Duh, no. But they knew the military had fled. They failed to point that out on the news as it would make the story less impressive wouldn't it?!

  Really Simon...you should back off of baseless accusations...there is nothing to suggest this was "staged" to make that accusation impugns the integrity and honor of men I know to be the most intelligent...brave...and honest I've ever met. I've never worked with better.

  Well, if you've spent your life in the military maybe ...

  To claim they are the most intelligent, most brave and most honest is your opinion though and nothing more. I personally doubt they are all three. People are people and I suspect the exact same mix ranging from outstanding to pond scum exists in the military just as in civilian life.
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  Stacy Smith

  "It was like a Hollywood film. They cried, 'Go, go, go', with guns and blanks and the sound of explosions.

  Simon if you believe sources that say they had blanks then you'll believe anything. Soldiers never carry blanks, come on now.