by Blueblades 21 Replies latest jw friends
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.Rather be afraid of the ONE who can destroy both soul and body in hell....The words of Jesus at Matthew 10:28
So,according to Jesus,the Soul does exist after the death of the body.But in order not to be destroyed you must fear the ONE who can destroy your soul.
What a way to live!
Blueblades
Ahhhh ..that's NOT what Jesus is saying, unless you believe Gehenna is fiery place of torment in the underworld.
Shouldn't this be posted in one of the Bible Discussion areas?
There is evidence that Jesus, Herod the Disciples and even common folk believed in the concept of karmic debt and working this debt out through the process of reincarnation.
*** Rbi8 Matthew 16:13-14 ***
Jesus went asking his disciples: “Who are men saying the Son of man is?” 14 They said: “Some say John the Baptist, others E·li'jah, still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
Why were people expecting to see a prophet that had been dead some few hundred years? The people's thought process was already in existence before Jesus was on the scene. Jesus never rebuked the concept or chastised his followers for this belief. Even Herod himself was familiar with the concept...
*** Rbi8 Luke 9:7-8 ***
7 Now Herod the district ruler heard of all the things happening, and he was in great perplexity because of its being said by some that John had been raised up from the dead, 8 but by others that E·li'jah had appeared, but by still others that a certain one of the ancient prophets had risen.
Jesus even chastised Nicodemus for failing to know or to teach the concept of reincarnation (or so it seems)…
*** Rbi8 John 3:4 ***4 Nic·o·de'mus said to him: “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter into the womb of his mother a second time and be born, can he?”*** Rbi8 John 3:10 ***10 In answer Jesus said to him: “Are you a teacher of Israel and yet do not know these things?
I think it's wise to consider that Nicodemus was a relatively smart man of the times (as evidenced by Jesus holding him to a higher standard), and thus I believe Nicodemus' response truly reflected the meaning Jesus intended. I’m confident I could find many other examples… would anyone care to help?
After seeing many pass on in the ER. The soul moves on.
To answer the topic question....yes.
Frannie B
I don't know, but if some part of me still exists after my body dies, I'll try to let you guys know.
I have heard the WTBTS view on this . I think they said something like the soul is = to personality not a force that leaves the body . I heard one televangelist last week that said the spirit exists in the stomach and exits at time of death . It seems that this is one of the most controversial parts of the bible . Exactly what happens at the time of death . The bible itself is very confusing on this and seems to contradict itself . It would seem tho that since God has a faultless memory that the possiblity of simply remembering every detail of a person, it is possible that he just recreates people from scratch . Most people just seem to think that we are judged at the time of death to life or eternal damnation but it is clear that there is a specific judgement day when all are resurected at the same time , some to life others to judgement .
I hope so, otherwise I am so screwed! I'll never finish all I have to do in one lifetime!
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I don't see that the bible teaches "soul sleep" Paul spoke of being absent from the body and being present with the Lord. If the soul = the body as the wt teaches....that would make no sense. Paul also said that to die was gain. He longed to die but he knew that he still had work to do here for Christ and his followers. Also, the parable in Luke of the rich man and Lazarus that Jesus taught tells us of life immediately after death. Then, there is also the resurrection of the body for the dead while the living are changed into glorified bodies at the coming of Christ for His church. There is a lot going on. I do not pretend to understand it all.
