Are We Now Living in a POST-Science world (at least politically?)

by Terry 12 Replies latest jw friends

  • Terry
    Terry
    If your sex is only what YOU say it is, without any reference to biological reality,
    Then
    Your race can be only what you say it is, without any reference to biological reality.

    Is this repudiation of Science? Reference: biologically male individuals have one X and one Y chromosome (XY) while those who are biologically female have two X chromosomes.
    What we are seeing today:
    a mode of argument which stresses the need to sever links with Science in order to create a new and revitalized social order.

    What next? Can we turn poverty into wealth by asserting it into being?
    All sorts of cheeky questions could come into play here. But what I'm interested in is the clash between two assertions.
    1. Science cannot be ignored when it comes to CLIMATE
    2. Science can be repudiated when it comes to gender politics.

    What are your thoughts, facts, evidence, arguments either way?

  • mickbobcat
    mickbobcat

    Two words Rachael Dolazol. LMAO the left is so far gone so stupid so mentally ill they are in a death spiral. CTD.

  • road to nowhere
    road to nowhere

    You forgot the W and Z chromosomes.

    As for climate, it has always changed, the problem is how to deal with it without causing mass unrest.

    Side note: science says African Americans react differently to medicine. Look up octoroon. Personally I am a septaroon, put that in your math science conondrum

  • Brock Talon
    Brock Talon

    The answer is definitely "yes" to a post-scientific world, as long as it comes from the Left. Consider the way COVID was handled:

    There is zero scientific evidence that total shutdowns have protected us from getting COVID. I am not talking about reasonable precautions, but rather hard, fast, complete shutdowns that have persisted in most Left leaning states and cities. In fact, scientific evidence shows that total shutdowns DO increase depression and suicides, divorces, drop outs from school, killing businesses that people have worked their entire adult lives to build, homelessness (which eventually kills), and on and on. Yet the Left have seemed to persist in this hard core mentality regardless. New York, California and states like these are experiencing mass exodus directly due to this (again, something that can be proven) but that hasn't seemed to stop the nonsensical way this has been handled by the Left. Yet, if you look at the CDC reports on states with the highest PER CAPITA deaths reported from COVID, 9 of the top 10 are Left leaning. Research this yourself. New Jersey and New York are the worst of the worst. Science be dammed. Yet Cuomo was on TV every day on CNN acting as if he were some sort of COVID fighting God, when in reality he was probably one of the subjects biggest oafs. Meanwhile, cities and states that have handled COVID reasonably without Draconian shutdowns have faired better in just about every way. Thus, the mass exodus from the Left leaning states (or even those completely Left controlled like CA) are leaving in droves to places like TX, AZ and FL where actual science is practiced in a reasonable way.

    Scientific evidence was clear that COVID was most deadly to older people, those especially over 70. The Princess Cruise event at the beginning of the pandemic showed this clearly. I read through the report on that with interest and realized this early on as a layperson. (I also bought 95 masks early, even though the CDC and WHO were saying not to do that at the time... again, science...) Reports from the CDC and WHO, etc. made this clear to anyone who would actually read the reports that those with advanced age and preexisting conditions were the main ones to protect .. Again, that did not stop governors from 5 different left leaning states (like Cuomo in NY) from FORCING COVID positive, sick, aged, pre-existing conditioned adults back into nursing homes and thus spreading COVID among the very demographic that should have been protected. They died by the thousands and actually these 5 states accounted for the largest majority of COVID deaths in the US, at least through the summer of 2020. Not sure how that looks now, but this was an unthinkable move by Lefty leaders that had ZERO science behind it. Meanwhile NY and CA governors and mayors were busy shutting down skating parks for teens and stopping surfers from surfing alone in the ocean. Scientific?

    In that same light, how scientific is it that these Lefty leaders were seen attending (and defending) large George Floyd protests, but railed against people who wanted to attend church, or simply be allowed work their businesses with reasonable precautions? Scientific?

    All scientific evidence pointed to the fact that COVID originated from Wuhan China. Emperical evidence was clear that China shut down travel within its own borders, yet allowed travel OUTSIDE its borders, thus allowing COVID to spread everywhere in the world. The Left leaning WHO defended China for the good part of 2020, and to this day the Left doesn't want to "blame" China for this world changing pandemic, No, it's better to blame Donald Trump.

    In that same vein, when Donald Trump banned travel from China in late February 2020, no less than Joe Biden ridiculed him as "racist" for doing so. The rest of the Left did this same name calling, completely ignoring science. I don't defend Trump in everything he has done, but that one he certainly got right. Even Fauci had to give him credit later on, but only after questioning it at first. Yet the Left was able to pin blame on Trump for COVID, when it is reality THEY who made things worse and the Left leaning places are the worst off, even to this day. Notice even now how CA is fumbling and bumbling its way through the vaccination process. This is how the Left handles things.

    But the Left does other unscientific things as well. Take the CA fires. Left groups have interfered or stopped the reasonable deforestation efforts because of the tree-hugging mentality gone amok. Everyone should take care of the environment, no one should have a problem with that. But nature shows that if you don't thin out forest, clean out dead trees, create burn lines, etc. once a fire gets started, it will burn through everything including homes, people, animals, businesses, etc. No, it's better to blame Climate change on the fires than look to themselves for their total mismanagement of the issue. Scientific?

    How about climate change? The #1 biggest offender in the world in Carbon emissions is China. TWICE as much as the United States, which is #2. Period. Total science. Not even disputed. So, if the Left REALLY cared about Climate change, they would rail against China all day, every day, just for that reason alone. Sure, rail against the U.S. too if you like, I have no problem there; we can certainly do better. But for goodness sake, why is the Left giving China a pass if they really care about the climate? I have seen literally ZERO Left leaning organization that constantly go against the U.S. and other democratic countries do or say ANYTHING about China. If the US. could cut it's emissions in half tomorrow, China would still be choking the entire world. That's like asking your neighbor on the right to stop dumping his trash on your lawn, but the neighbor on your left is dumping twice as much and you say nothing. Scientific?

    No. It's idiocy.

  • Terry
    Terry

    ...and IDIOCRACY.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clYwX8Z43zg&ab_channel=LuisMedeirosPereira

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    We are entering the Age of Political Correctness--and it will be as absolute as it was during the other Dark Ages. Science matters not--you are whatever "they" say you are. If "they" say you are white, you are white (even if you are not--and they will play that card if they don't like the way you act) and will be treated as s***. And pretty soon after, all other areas of science will also be disallowed.

    Just like it was during the First Dark Ages.

  • ShotWhileTryingToEscape
    ShotWhileTryingToEscape

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6505576/

    I found many scientific article that say chromosomes are not the sole determinate to how a baby develops as male or female.

    The trouble with science is that new information comes up all the time. Even scientists have to read stay current.

    I had to read some of the papers through a few times to grasp the intricate interplay of genes, chromosomes , hormones etc that interact as we are getting put together in uterus. Without such information l cannot hope to understand this subject well enough to do anything but repeat old news.

    I hope others find this helpful too.

    SWTTE

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  • Anna Marina
    Anna Marina

    Um.... I know you've heard it all before but...

    (2 Timothy 3:1-5) . . .But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away.

    I think we are living in a post world. A world where everything gets posted.

  • cyberjesus
    cyberjesus

    we havent entered the science era yet. the majority is just enjoying their technology without wondering... or caring to know, how, when and where.

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