I just got off the phone with TeeJay

by seven006 57 Replies latest jw friends

  • StinkyPantz
    StinkyPantz

    Bug-

    if you really thought he was an ass you wouldn't have talked to him several times, you would have quit after the first call.

    See, what you don't know about me, is that I LIKE smartasses. So, by calling Teejay an ass, it means that I appreciate that about his style. He IS an ass, I stand by that. I'm a bitch. Maybe that's why he and I get along .

    ALTHOUGH,

    I don't think that just because Seven006 says something makes it fact or should automatically be accepted. Each person should be judged based on our own intereactions with them, not solely on another's.

    There is someone on the board that I have had "strong disagreements" with and have offered to call. Everyone else loves him, I do not (nor do I hate him). I think a phone call would be great; but until then, I will consider other's opinions, but rely primarily on mine when if comes to this person.

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  • obiwan
    obiwan
    I'm a bitch

    Please SP, you couldn't be any sweeter!

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  • calamityjane
    calamityjane

    Thanks for sharing.

    There is noting like the sound of a real voice to help see things a lot clearer

    How true.

    cj

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  • Robdar
    Robdar

    I have always found TeeJay to be a sweet, smart ass, kinda guy. This was even before I spoke to him on the phone last summer. I am glad that I stayed out of the latest argument between Dave and Teej. If TeeJay says that Dave is a great guy, I believe him. Of course, I thought that anyways.

    Good to see that yall have made your peace.

    Robyn

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  • waiting
    waiting
    Okay people, I have talked to Teejay on the phone several times and I still think he's an ass -sp

    Welllllllllll, yeah, that's a given. So are a lot of people around here - including me. Some of the most sarcastic, humorous posters are a pain in the ass. Occasionally, any and all of the proceeding applies to moi also. Okay, more than occasionally - but not as often as tj.

    I'm glad tj & Dave got some good talking done - congratulations on surviving each other long enough to be able to smile & chat!

    AlanF & I had the opportunity to speak on the phone some time ago - I was soooooo nervous talking to The Big Dawg. He was sooooooooo nice! Not at all how he *can* post here

    Glad two of my favorite posters & people made friends.

    waiting

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  • teejay
    teejay

    >>>> I talked to him a couple of nights ago and found him to be refreshingly passionate....about everything! I had to shout him down a few times...LOL! -- Azzy

    Excuse me!!!!???? *YOU* had to shout *ME* down???!!!! Uh... sistah... if you're gonna tell it, tell it right, K?
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    Robyn

    Did you get my email?
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    >>>> Some of the most sarcastic, humorous posters are a pain in the ass. Occasionally, any and all of the proceeding applies to moi also. Okay, more than occasionally - but not as often as tj. -- Empress Waiting

    See? How ironic.

    Actually, Good Woman, you have worked smartassedness to a very fine and subtle art and everyone knows it. You sit quietly all meek and mild while the little boys fight--the frontal, testosterone-laced attack ain't your style--but you never fail to get your digs in that needle as good as anyone's, that's for sure. Don't think people haven't noticed.

    Know what? It's my goal to someday get as good at smartassedness as you are, Sister Waiting. Now... I know you are sitting there reading this with a little smirk on your cherubic face, scoffing at the audacity of me even thinking such a thing, let alone saying it.

    And I see your point.

    I have no problem admitting. You're probably right -- I probably never will get to be anywhere near the smartass you are -- but knowing that isn't going to keep me from trying.

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  • Aztec
    Aztec

    Okay Teejay, I think we both shouted eachother down a few times. Is that more fair?

    Love ya!

    ~Aztec

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  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    Hello,

    Trying to quantify a persons personality by their posts on an XJW discussion Board, or any other Board for that matter is a fatally flawed methodology. It is rather like speaking to somebody on the telephone and trying to guess their physical appearance from their voice, invariably the reality is vastly different from the imagination.

    For example, AlanF and I have had numerous discussion Board posts, email messages and telephone calls between us over two years and when we first met in a hotel foyer we both stood around for quite some while looking for each other. We both came to understand that we were looking for homely looking people and were stunned by how handsome and debonair we were in reality…. It is not sensible to judge a personality by a post and that is why we should always recognize that this is just a discussion Board and not take ourselves, or others too seriously. To do so could be damaging to our emotional well-being.

    I have read TJ’s posts over two years and frequently commended him for his creative writing style in certain threads. However, his general style in dealing with issues I have often found to be pedantic, contradictory, contentious, and with a penchant to automatically defer to his own viewpoints without needed self-examination. I suspect that I am not the only person that has found this to be so.

    Now, does this mean that I dislike TJ and think that he is not a wonderful, kind and charming person? Absolutely not. I am quite sure that TJ shows every one of those endearing qualities and many more and that in person we would have much in common and even become good and loyal friends. This however has little to do with the concepts of a discussion board. We only have a persons posts to deal with and by definition we cannot always grapple with the motivation behind them.

    For example, a ‘troll’ might arrive on the Board full of malevolent mischief with the obvious intent of causing trouble. One might ask, why does this person *need* to do what they are doing? In reality it could be that this person is deeply disturbed, a sad person in need of attention, perhaps abused, or crying out for help. Does this mean that we need to tolerate their posts? Of course not, but in real life we might feel so badly for this person that our desire would be to spend time with this person and try to help them through their issues.

    So it is with posters whose posts on a discussion board deserve to be challenged. One should be able to challenge a persons posting style without having to apologize for doing so. I have noticed that sometimes people cry persecution because they find their posts attacked by numerous people on one thread. This is rather like the WTS claiming Satan is persecuting them when actually they are drawing attention to themselves by their flawed theological policies. If we find our posts on one thread being attacked by four or five people, each with the same criticism, it would be foolish of us not to stand back and think about what we are saying and whether in fact we have not explained ourselves carefully, or our thinking is flawed. Stubbornness is no substitute for critical thinking.

    When TJ posts well. I will commend him. When he does not I will challenge him. I expect the same criteria to be used in my own posts.

    Best regards to all - HS

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  • StinkyPantz
    StinkyPantz

    HS-

    If we find our posts on one thread being attacked by four or five people, each with the same criticism, it would be foolish of us not to stand back and think about what we are saying and whether in fact we have not explained ourselves carefully, or our thinking is flawed. Stubbornness is no substitute for critical thinking.

    Agreed. I guess the problem I've noticed is 1) the person is attacked, usually by the same group of people, not their post(s); or 2) we expect more from others in this regard than ourselves or 3) not bothering with the critics, because they aren't worthy to criticize in the first place (for a multitude of reasons)

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  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    SP,

    Agreed. I guess the problem I've noticed is 1) the person is attacked, usually by the same group of people, not their post(s); or 2) we expect more from others in this regard than ourselves or 3) not bothering with the critics, because they aren't worthy to criticize in the first place (for a multitude of reasons)

    I cannot speak for others, but I will always respond to a PM with evidence that I am guilty of any of the above, including point #3, which I did not fully understand... and will apologize if neccessary.

    Best regards - HS

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