They really "jumped the gun" with this 1914 definition! They could easily have kept the pre-1995 definition (those born in 1914) until now! In fact, that definition still gives them around 15-20 more years, and we are in 2018!!
But they lacked so much faith in their own false prophecy that they changed it in 1995 or 1996, when there were still millions of them left!!
"Generation of 1914" Countdown Timer
by ILoveTTATT2 26 Replies latest jw friends
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ILoveTTATT2
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waton
Had been born when WWI started - look at the counter to see an estimate of how many are left.
It is one thing to talk of past wt generation beliefs, another consider what they taught and
"-Millions now living will never die" means 2 million JWs in good standing from that generation to pass Ar-ma-geddon.
so, the work is urgent, scour the retirement homes for the 103 year olds, make disciples, baptize them after another "6 month bible study program", or is it too late?
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ILoveTTATT2
No, "millions now living will never die" meant the entire worldwide population. It was only later that they said it was only the JW population.
Note what jwfacts says about it:Who Were the Millions?
Russell had proposed that Watchtower followers were to go to heaven, whilst most of the remainder of humanity would survive Armageddon to be educated personally by Jesus in paradise earth.
"He takes mankind as he finds them, and during the Millennial age will deal with each individual of the world according to his own particular condition, having mercy upon the weak and requiring more of the stronger, …" Studies in the Scriptures - The New Creation p.114
Rutherford continued to promote this teaching. In the New System, freed from the influence of Satan, Jesus would directly teach all people and give them the opportunity to choose if they wished to live forever serving him. Salvation was not contingent on becoming a Watchtower follower, or even a believer in Jesus. In fact, the churches were criticised for teaching that their members exclusively would be saved.
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More often though, the Watchtower misleadingly indicates that the teaching of "millions now living" was overoptimism, as if the teaching back then coincided with the current doctrine that only Jehovah's Witnesses would be saved onto earth as part of the Great Crowd.
So this same exercise CAN be applied to the "millions" campaign. In fact, I think I should edit the site and make a second counter based on this!! -
DesirousOfChange
So, the more pertinent and telling question is - by JWs own past reckoning - how many people who were ages 13 to 16 at the time the War broke out are still alive?
DITTO.
Dead. They are ALL DEAD!
Please read Deut. 18:18-22. (Even if YOU don't believe it, it is THEIR BOOK OF RULES and it applies to THEM.)
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ILoveTTATT2
DoC, you are totally correct.
The goal here is to visualize when exactly their definitions of their own prophecies fail.
Generation Definition 1: All over 15 when WWI started: FAILED
Generation Definition 2: All over 10 when WWI started: Only 6 people left, will fail circa 2020.
Generation Definition 3: All alive when WWI started: the purpose of this counter, to visualize this.
I have now made another counter for the 1925 definition: MILLIONS (has to be over 2 million) now living will never die.
Similar assumptions: 10% of the world population were babies born in 1925, i.e. 197 million babies, then 5% of people make it to be 90, then 1% of people make it to be 100... do the math... and...
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ILoveTTATT2
AAND...
I am VERY happy to announce... that"MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE" is now another, completely proven FALSE, Watchtower prophecy!!
There are now LESS THAN TWO MILLION, so no millionS people alive who were alive in 1925.Also...
There are only TWO people left that satisfy the claim that people over 10 when WWI started would be alive before Armageddon. They are 117 and 115, respectively, so they don't have much time left!! -
road to nowhere
Dont forget that satan beibg thrown to earth started ww1 as he was really throwing a tantrum. Except it started before the October 4,5 date they use. Time warp?
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flipper
The " millions who are now living, who will never die " are all dead, or to the point of your thread, virtually all dead. Those born in 1914.
Bottom line is the WT Society has been selling lies since 1879. For 140 years they've been pushing this idea that people who listen to them will " live forever " . It's a cruel tactic that plays on people's fear of death. My JW parents died at age 91 in 2017 and another at age 89 in 2016. They had been told these crock of shit lies since the early 1950's when they joined the JW cult. WT leaders are unethical mind duping criminals who should be locked up for not only these lies, but child abuse, preventing life saving blood transfusions, and all the other unethical tactics they've used on JW's since the beginning in 1879.
Pretty soon ,before we know it, it will be 2029, or 150 years since the JW cult leaders started spreading these " end of the system " lies. Hell, since an actual generation is about 30 years, by 2029, 5 overlapping generations will have passed since the WT Society began these absurdities. Pretty sick, twisted stuff if you sit down and ponder. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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DesirousOfChange
WHAT FLIPPER SAID (above)!
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waton
Its all about the talking snake, and it said: " you, [and the millions from you] will never die"
It makes all that still teach that a satanic cult.
In those days a generation was 120 years (the average age that men "begat" their first born son on). Not to speak of the near 1000 years, the lifespan of individuals like Methuselah. the leeway for wr phantasies goes way beyond the 2075 margin of the overlapping /Splane saga.
added: failed, condemned prophecies are not determined solely by the original, ignorant intent, but by the actual out workings in that future reality, or not. As of today wt teaches that only baptized, approved , active, reporting jws or their minor children , may be un believing, supportive husbands, -- will survive Armageddon, never die.
You know any of the 2 000 000 over 106 year old jws that report their 15 minutes a month? or their under 10 year old children? (common baptism age)
