My parents worst JW saying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • run dont walk
    run dont walk

    Well, I might have went a little too far this time, but when someone pushes me, I push back, that's just the way I am.

    My parents worst saying, and was probaly one of the reasons that I left JW land was ...................

    "The worst person at the Kingdom Hall is better than the best person in the world."

    if I had a dollar for everytime I heard that growing up.

    So, I asked my mom if she still felt that way, she said sort of (very carefully), I said so the JW child molesters are still better then people in the world, is that how you really feel ?

    She started to cry, before it was the media just making up stories, now I think she is realizing that "some" of these stories are true.

    She asked me why I hate the JW's so much.

    I said I don't hate the JW's, I hate the organization and the lies.

    All I want from you mom is to admit you made a mistake, that the JW life is not that great afterall, and it is ok to grow up without JW land, it is NOT the end of the world.

    That was the end of the conversation, I have had a couple days to reflect and think about it.

    Did I go to far ???

    Did your parents have any saying to you that drove you nuts ???

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine
    Did I go to far ???

    I doubt it, though you might want to lay off JW stuff for a little while, and talk family and life stuff with her, to reasure her that it is her that you are mostly concerned about, not the organization. It give us apostatoes a chance to be bigger than the way we were raised.

  • pettygrudger
    pettygrudger

    I agree w/Six, you have to assure her that you still love her, and that you've become more "loving" than what the JW's profess to be. Show her that there is life (and love) without the confines of that religion.

    My mom's favorite saying was "spare the rod, spoil the child", and let's just say she never spared anything!

  • Badger
    Badger

    Or the sister of that sentiment: when a witness starts making friends outside, everyone acts surprised when they say, "They're nicer than anyone in the hall!"

    My answer to this shock is:

    "What in the #&$^ are you doing to make them stay?"

    I NEVER get a response.

  • blondie
    blondie

    My mother just told me recently that I was going to die if I didn't go to the meetings. I guess God has appointed her judge over humans on earth. What love!

    At the time of Jesus, the way to God was through the Jews yet he dealt with many non-Jews and blessed them. Jesus knew it wasn't necessary to worship in a certain building to have God's favor.

    Matthew 15:21-28

    21

    Leaving there, Jesus now withdrew into the parts of Tyre and Si´don. 22 And, look! a Phoe·ni´cian woman from those regions came out and cried aloud, saying: "Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David. My daughter is badly demonized." 23 But he did not say a word in answer to her. So his disciples came up and began to request him: "Send her away; because she keeps crying out after us." 24 In answer he said: "I was not sent forth to any but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." 25 When the woman came she began doing obeisance to him, saying: "Lord, help me!" 26 In answer he said: "It is not right to take the bread of the children and throw it to little dogs." 27 She said: "Yes, Lord; but really the little dogs do eat of the crumbs falling from the table of their masters." 28 Then Jesus said in reply to her: "O woman, great is your faith; let it happen to you as you wish." And her daughter was healed from that hour on.

    John 4:7-9

    7

    A woman of Sa·mar´i·a came to draw water. Jesus said to her: "Give me a drink." 8 (For his disciples had gone off into the city to buy foodstuffs.) 9 Therefore the Sa·mar´i·tan woman said to him: "How is it that you, despite being a Jew, ask me for a drink, when I am a Sa·mar´i·tan woman?" (For Jews have no dealings with Sa·mar´i·tans.)

    John 4:19-22

    19

    The woman said to him: "Sir, I perceive you are a prophet. 20 Our forefathers worshiped in this mountain; but YOU people say that in Jerusalem is the place where persons ought to worship." 21 Jesus said to her: "Believe me, woman, The hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will YOU people worship the Father. 22 YOU worship what YOU do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation originates with the Jews.

    John 4:25-26

    25 The woman said to him: "I know that Mes·si´ah is coming, who is called Christ. Whenever that one arrives, he will declare all things to us openly." 26 Jesus said to her: "I who am speaking to you am he."

    And what about those Jews who were worshipping in the correct building?

    John 8:31-32

    31 And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him: "If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, 32 and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free."

    John 8:40-42

    40 But now YOU are seeking to kill me, a man that has told YOU the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 YOU do the works of YOUR father." They said to him: "We were not born from fornication; we have one Father, God."42 Jesus said to them: "If God were YOUR Father, YOU would love me, for from God I came forth and am here.

    John 8:44

    44 YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father.

    Yes, Jesus knew that it was not being in a certain building, not being in a certain group, would identify a person as his follower.

    Matthew 7:21-23

    21 "Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.
  • alamb
    alamb

    "If you play in the barn, you will smell like the barn" (worldly associations, etc.)

    Don't know if this qualifies but we had to call Lucky Charms: Fortunate Trinkets or they wouldn't buy any.

  • truman
    truman

    Don't know if this qualifies but we had to call Lucky Charms: Fortunate Trinkets or they wouldn't buy any.

    ROFL!!!!!! This reminds me of the verbal gynastics I perpetrated upon my children, in my loyal JW days. To avoid the stigma of speaking the proper appelation of those crunchy Chinese cookies called Fortune Cookies, I told my poor gullible little kids that they were 'message cookies' and that is what they called them for many years. One knows better now. ;) The other is still a JW. :(

  • Gadget
    Gadget

    The one I hated was after assemblies etc when people used to say, "Wasn't it wonderful that we now have this new light". It used to bug me how people would just blindly accept the things they heard even if they contradicted what they had taught previously, and went on and on about how great it was.

  • William Penwell
    William Penwell

    I hate when they would say, "You know this system can't last much longer." I have heard that crap for the last 40 years!! As a matter of fact I heard someone use that same line the other day. I mean don't they clue in that its the same tired old argument the dubs have been peddling for the last 100+ years.

    Will

  • blondie
    blondie

    Will, my mother is starting to say that more and more as she approaches 80. She has been a JW for almost 50 years and was told she would see it in her lifetime.

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