"Man was created in Gods image" (page 2)

Dansk

you are incredibly intelligent and sexy!

Spanner is sexy?

Good to see your posts, Spanner. Sorry I couldn't get down your way!

Best wishes,

Dansk

Good question Dansk. One the mind can spin it's wheels on forever. However, there is no satisfactory answer to a question such as this, as it's basic elements may very well be untrue. The foundation of the question is duality. It unquestionably assumes that we are individual fragmented entities separate and apart from God, from whose image we are created. It seems fairly obvious -- from the questions point of view -- that reality in made up of many individual selves, or entities making up "us" who are very much distant and separate from God (if there even is one). It also assumes there is "good" and there is "evil". On the surface there seems to be no problem with the question as most would see the basic components as facts: there is likely a God, there most certainly are us people, there is good, and there is evil (just look around). But, what if these fundamental factors are bogus? Throughout time there are those who have awakened or realized a unitive Truth radically different from what we generally and unquestionably accept as reality/truth. From their enlightened view duality is a mental creation, a story, an untruth, a result of misidentification of ones True-self. From their perspective there are no individual entities. There is only endless passing forms, expressions of the One (which many refer to as God). The One is infinite, having no boundaries or end. It's phenomenal expression is also infinite. It does not limit Itself to what we would judge as good or bad. It is Freedom itself. There are no shackles on It's expressing. Perhaps what they (enlighten or awakened consciousness) see is True: There are no separate entities and walls are illusion. There is only "I Am" (but I am no-thing in particular). There is no good and there is no bad; there is only the One expressing freely; no one is really born, and no one really dies. The entire universe could explode, and the One would remain pristine and untouched; not dependent on It's phenomenal expression. Suffering enters then, only when the One, comes to identify with a fragile fragment of infinite expression. Now, there is a sense that there is a tiny "me", a person, and all else is seen as "other". In order for this fragment to defend itself from other, it must now enter duality even deeper and group everything into categories of good and bad. Since the One, is infinite in expression, it seems It is quite free to enter into a limited, fragmented identity. It is also free to see through such identification...and does. I admit (generally speaking) that from a human level, everything I have said sounds totally nuts; and makes not an inkling of sense. To believe in similar to what I just said only supports the sense of being a separate entity; for now I have a belief system or religion (seemingly further proof that me the person exists). The Consciousness which looks out these eyes needs to unquestionably, undeniably and unequivocally rediscover It's True-identity, or none of this amounts to anything. This may be accomplished by turning our questioning gaze inwards, towards the center of our being; rather than outwards into phenomena and intellectual expression. JamesT

Aztec

Easy answer Dansk: God was created in man's image and imagination.

Good question btw!

~Aztec

Dansk

Hi JamesT,

Always love your posts (did you get my pm?).

This may be accomplished by turning our questioning gaze inwards, towards the center of our being;

The answer is contained here - at the very end!

Dansk

JamesThomas

Dansk, I enjoy your posts as well. I am having some trouble with my PM and have notifies Simon. But yes, I have just read your PM and as you said "the answer is there at the end" in your words "Spiritual enlightenment comes from within oneself and not from any teaching". Take care friend. JamesT

iiz2cool

It seems to me that man has taken some of his own worst qualities, put it all into one imaginary being, and called it god. Love, yeah, it's there I suppose, but it's conditional. Break a simple rule, and you suffer and end up dead over it. Two people eat forbidden fruit, and what happens? Billions of people suffer for thousands of years! That's not reasonable by ANY standard.

Man created in god's image? NO! We have a little more compassion then that.

God created in man's image? Maybe, but it's still only a part of the image. The good parts seem to be missing.

Walter

Dansk

Walter,

Two people eat forbidden fruit, and what happens? Billions of people suffer for thousands of years! That's not reasonable by ANY standard.

That is an excellent point and one I used to muse over many times. I used to think to myself "If one of my four children was naughty would I punish all four?!" Obviously, I wouldn't!!

Your comment is certainly wonderfully placed on this thread because it is another example of "If we are made in God's image then why would HE punish the innocent when we wouldn't?" I could never reconcile women's birth pangs being increased because of Eve's sin, either!!

We cannot, therefore, be made in "God's" image if our reasoning is above that of the 'Creator's'. Rather, the search for truth lies within ourselves. We are beholden to no-one but ourselves; for all our actions there are the inevitable reactions. Whatever good or bad we do will come back upon us.

Dansk

stillajwexelder

I am actually starting to get so cynical that I think the writers of the bible made God in man's image

A Paduan

Some people went on a journey, and there were stories told about how such a journey could lead to a place of wonders.

One of them whined along the way, when things became hard that is, but even so his mind was still set on finding that wonderous thing - he didn't enjoy the journey much, particularly those hardships. Another hated the hardship so much, he said to himself "stuff this" and went home to watch tv in comfort, and die there too. Another thought that the whole thing was an adventure, all the time, the hard and the easy - didn't really matter much - it was good - if there wasn't the hard, there wouldn't be the easy - if he didn't meet with any evil, how would he know the good?

God is Adventure - to come, to be, "I Am" - a nd so in God's likeness, I can be - "I am" also - here I am. In the Adventure there are places and characters..... heroes too. If the baddies got zapped before they baddied, how would you give meaning to what a baddie even was? God is real, a real Adventure, with real blows, real baddies, real loves, real heroes, infinite trust, true loves, real honour and treacherous characters to boot.

In my adventure, ex-jws are escaping prisoners of nasty characters - however, the ex's and others were afforded some Godly protection - the bible - the greed and understanding limits the evil of the gb & elders, and chains them in the dark as well. Who said there's no divine intervention - I think I'd rather be killed than left on that side of the chasm.

anglise

Hi Dansk

Turn the question round.

maybe we have created "god" in our image.

He/she/it doesnt exist but if it did would have the same capacity for good and bad as we have but on a much greater scale ie paradise earth and armageddon, heaven and hell, angels and demons.

Just a thought.

Anglise

"Man was created in Gods image"

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