Sins of the father I guess.
Yep worship me or I'll kill you and your children. Sure I won't do it with a flood again but I'll do it. You won't know when or where but it's soon baby, very soon.
kill the victims
by peacefulpete 14 Replies latest watchtower bible
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shotgun
God needed these angels to produce a new generation of Nephilim that is mentioned in Numbers 13:33.
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Panda
Most ancient cultures have a flood myth. I used to live in Oregon so raining 40 days is no biggy. Someone mentioned the recent research of the Baltic sea. But we also know that flooding rivers continue to kill huge numbers of people every year. Flooding brings good soil and irrigation (the Nile) but kills too.
I'm reading a really old book 1st published in 1882, written by TW Doane and titled Bible Myths and their parallels in other ancient religions
The author mentions Genesis 4 "And it repented the Lord that he had made man." But later In Numbers 23:19 it says that"God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man that he should repent."
Doane points out the contradictions in the Bible flood account and suggests the reason being that more than one author was involved. One a Jehovist and the other an Elohist, thus the difference in the second instance of mentioning "clean" beasts etc.
The Chaldean myth was told both by Chaldean historian Berosus and on Assyrian tablets now in the British museum. Also the Hindu version has a rainbow seen at the subsiding waters.
The Chinese book of Qing says the waters reached the mountain tops. The Parsecs (later Persians with the Aryan mythos) said it was wicked that God destroyed except for a few to re-people the world.
The Greeks said Zeus saw the wicked humans, caused a deluge, saved Deucalion and his wife Pyrrha (stleast the greeks named her!) AND Deucalion didn't leave the ark until a dove returned to him w/ an olive branch.
The Celts had drayan and Droyvach who had a boat made for them by the"heavenly Lord".
The Mexican legend had the ark land on a mountain. In the USA ancient cultures of caddoes, Naztarny, Zuni, Colhuacan Mixteca. Each of these had a local high place which the locals could point to and say "that's where they landed and waited for the bird."
How did they all have these traditions? Because geology and now anthropology have shown that local deluges were frequent. Some may have been saved by raft or simple boat and reaached safety on a higher elevation.
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peacefulpete
I enjoyed Doane's book as well. While some of the info he presents has been refined he did a good service compiling the legends thematically. An additional comment about similar flood stories. Creationists of course see in this coincidence, "proof" of collective memory of the Bible flood. They have greatly exaggerated the universiality of flood legends, ignore that the differences in the tale are great and the similarities are directly proportionate to the extent of contact these cultures had. In other words the more contact and exchange cultures had the more their legends tend to coincide. Not surprisingly the Jewish flood legend best coincides with older Babylonian and Ugarit forms of a flood legend. Some of these legends are older than the date given in the Bible for the Flood thereby discrediting any supposed connection.
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A Paduan
Unless you live in a desert (maybe even then), it's common for older people to tell of the time when it really flooded - in some places it would be as far as the eye could see - often taking quite a while to subside.