News of fires out of control in California

by ballistic 36 Replies latest jw friends

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    I don't see how WT can cash in on this* nor how individual JWs can wonder if this is the big A. Bushfires don't make up much of the end times literature.

    * Prophetically speaking, that is. Of course they'll have their hand out, claiming they will use any proffered funds for disaster relief. 🙄

  • Biahi
    Biahi

    Yes, agree, Not former, they will ask that funds be directed to the world wide work’ and to not specify that your donated funds be directed to the fire victims in California. Then they can use these funds to pay more lawyers or settlements.

  • dropoffyourkeylee
    dropoffyourkeylee
    Maybe there’s nothing that can be done to mitigate this type of disaster, but I could see changes in laws/ fire prevention. Minimum limits on reservoirs, fire breaks, controlled burns, construction materials, etc.
  • Riley
    Riley

    The real root of the problem was two years of record rainfall that made all the vegetation grow , then followed by two years of drought that dried it all out. Then throw in some weird hurricane style winds and it was all gone.

    This really isn't the time to try and score political points.

  • Vidqun
    Vidqun

    Riley, spoken like a true Democrat. No, it has nothing to do with the fact that Gavin Newsom cut the fire budget by $100 million.

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  • Dagney
    Dagney

    Have any of you seen pictures circulating of yellow disaster relief trucks with JW.org logos?

    Somebody sent me a picture, but I'm hesitant to share as I'm not 100% sure it's legit.

  • Riley
    Riley

    I love when the Alt-Right who preach both low taxes and cutting public services sees what happens and accuses people someone of not spending enough tax payer money.

  • Anony Mous
    Anony Mous

    @Riley: The budget was not cut though. They spent it on having gay fire chiefs that were so fat, they admitted they were not fit to carry someone out of a burning house, and if that were the case then people had put themselves in that situation.

    Perhaps you should look into it, massive reservoirs intended to provide water for houses had been drained in the ocean for no proven ecological benefit and in those areas homeowners were sued and fined for trimming trees by the state to appease a few treehugger associations. There hadn't been controlled burns in 3 years because global warming, Newsom even prevented Trump from providing federal water resources for the state when he was still in office.

    This could've been prevented by cutting taxes and regulation and letting people and communities deal with their own tree and forest management instead of having it held up, in some places, since Newsom got into office.

  • I quit!
    I quit!

    I think it's going to be a while before all the facts as to what went wrong comes to light. Right now all I see is a lot of finger pointing. One fact that can't be disputed is that two years ago we had record rainfall and last year we had hardly any. Anyone familiar with Southern California knows that when we get rain all the hills green up and it looks like other parts of the country that always get a lot of rain. If we get a lot of rain we get a lot of plant growth. When we don't get rain all the plants that looked very green and healthy dry up in a very short amount of time creating a huge fire hazard. Combined that with Santa Ana winds and the chance of a brush fire goes way up. Make those Santa Ana winds blow through the area at close to 100 miles and hour an fire would be pretty much uncontrollable no matter the amount of resources you have to fight it.

    One thing saw I think about six months ago was a story about people stealing fire hydrants around LA. You can look this up and see videos of people stealing them. At the time I wondered why people were able to just unbolt them and take them without any water coming out. I heard that about 100 fire hydrants had been stolen. My question then was why is no water coming out. My question now is wouldn't the police and fire department notice that not only were the hydrants being stolen but it was relatively easy because on water came gushing out.

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    If you get a lot of rain for one or two years, then a drought, you know that the conditions are there for a highly destructive fire. Under those circumstances, isn't it even more imperative to make sure to take action to reduce or eliminate the risk? "Oh well... nature" is not an attitude that someone responsible for the safety of thousands (or millions) has the luxury of adopting.

    I think it's too early to know for sure what the causes are, but if it turns out that there was too much growth that created conditions for a catastrophe like this one, then steps should have been taken. No excuses. It would have cost a lot less than the (potentially) hundreds of billions that will be required to fix it now, as well as the loss of life and the loss of property and the long-term effects that victims and their families will be dealing with.

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