When does it become a cult?

by SpiceItUp 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • micheal
    micheal

    There is no question about it, this is a cult! To prove it, let's say the governing body said to all "It is now unscriptual to celebrate wedding anniversaries". They would listen. Then the gb commands "It is now unscriptual to have any association with worldy people including relatives, you must shun all" They would listen. Then the gb commands "It is now unscriptual to eat any meat". Again they would obey. Now the gb instructs " The scriptures have shown us that taking any medication is demonic, you must refrain from taking any medication even if it means your life" Again millions would obey.

    THIS IS A CULT!!!!

  • JT
    JT
    JT, I was thinking the same thing - thanks for posting the quote from Russell and then the one from the 2001 WT.

    just trying to keep it real

  • Richie
  • zen nudist
    zen nudist

    It becomes a cult when the members view ideas are more important then the people who hold them. Ideas may seem to have a life of their own but they are nothing without the host who carries them.... and seeing it the otherway round is where all human groups go wrong. when ideas are more important then people it become very easy to justify all sorts of horrible acts including murder and torture for those who do not contain the right ones.

    Numbers 31- Duet 21- Luke 19:27 Luke 14:26

    few religions on earth value all people above the ideas they hold, those which do have a much nicer history.

  • SpiceItUp
    SpiceItUp

    Hey thanks for all the replies....lots of good input...

    We also got Steve Hassan's book...although Matty is reading it first...but we'll let you know how it is.

    btw--Has anyone ever read David Reed's "how to rescue your loved ones from the Watchtower" and what did you think and did it work?

    btw--- Zen Nudust-- What part of FL do you live in?

    Cheers

  • zen nudist
    zen nudist

    you could also say it becomes a cult when the beliefs of one man, one organization, or one group of people move from opinion to dogmatic authority which is beyond questioning....

    in one book I read, out of every twenty males born, there is a child who has natural leadership qualities... one of twenty leaders is a super leader... hold overs from alpha male gorillas[?] and people naturally gravitate to these leaders and will follow them even to the death.

    check it out-- those admired most as leaders, Politician, Clergy and Actors, are admired for the ability to lie their @$$3$ off and get away with it...

    taking this principle-- not all questions can be answered, all answered can be questioned. and each answer can spawn new questions... it become increasingly obvious that the more you learn the less you know... honesty leads to uncertainty and uncertainty is not a leadership quality. Leaders are quick and decisive decision makers because they have convinced themselves of rightness of their own cause or suppressed their fears to the point of seeming supremely confident to others.... it is not a co-incidence that CONfidence MEN are considered liars.

    Leaders have often proven themselves either insane or good liars, often a mix.... honest people have often been ignored because they take to long to do anything.... Fuzzy Logic is a relatively new science which can explain why leaders can make decisions fast.

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