Why Lady "C" and JT have no Kids- WT Style

by JT 36 Replies latest jw friends

  • JT
    JT

    *** g74 11/8 ***9 Is This the Time to Have Children? There has always been a positive attitude about childbearing. Families with many children have been praised and honored. On the other hand,?a couple without children has been considered unfortunate. Barrenness has even been regarded as a reproach to a woman.

    This attitude is changing, however. Many informed couples nowadays hesitate when it comes to childbearing, asking themselves: Is this really a time to have children?

    *** g74 11/8 10 Is This the Time to Have Children? *** Ominous Predictions

    Further reinforcing the decision of some couples are ominous predictions for the immediate future.

    *** g74 11/8 11 Is This the Time to Have Children? *** Significantly, in the first century Jesus Christ himself gave an ominous forecast regarding a calamity coming upon Judea.

    It was in 66 C.E. that the armies of Roman general Cestius Gallus encamped around Jerusalem, but then withdrew, apparently without any reason for doing so. This provided believers in Jesus? prediction opportunity to flee. Those who did so were wise, for shortly afterward the Roman armies returned and the destruction upon those who remained was terrible beyond description.

    The circumstance that Jesus foretold proved true: ?Woe to the pregnant women and the ones suckling a baby in those days! For there will be great necessity upon the land.? (Luke 21:23) One can be sure that flight was more difficult for delaying parents with small children. If you had been living prior to that destruction and knew of its nearness, would you have considered that a time to be having children inside the province of Judea?

    Today there is a great crowd of people who are confident that a destruction of even greater magnitude is now imminent. The evidence is that Jesus? prophecy will shortly have a major fulfillment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time. They have chosen to remain childless so that they would be less encumbered to carry out the instructions of Jesus Christ to preach the good news of God?s kingdom earth wide before the end of this system comes.?Matt. 24:14.

    My mother was carrying my baby brother Steve when this article came out- she was asked by one sister: "How will you run when the tribulation starts"

    My mother used to cry and pray that my brother would be born before the end came-

    This type of information was played up by CO, DO and Bethel speakers and tons of local elders- this type of material was used to fire up the troops and even down till today

    Many couples still refrain from having kids since the end is so near-

    My wife and I are a 40yr old black couple with no kids and Why- well THE END IS SO CLOSE

    IT becomes very clear when one understands the influence that the wt has on it's members to understand how they indoctrinate it's members

    Notice the title of the Article itself (Is This the Time to Have Children?)

    LIKE SO many articles that the wt writes they ask leading questions then they provide what is considered Proof to lead one to the conclusion that they want you to come to without even having to tell you.

    Now did they say not to have children NOPE, but what did they do- they set up the circumstances to lead one to the conclusion that having children now while not wrong--- is not wise or the "Mature" Christian couple would consider that they can use the time better doing what SELLING WATCHTOWER'S BOOKS

    THE sad part is when one looks at the year that this article was written it is almost a joke in and of itself

    This is why groups like jw are often referred to as Doomsday groups

    I mean notice this powerful quote from this article:

    Today there is a great crowd of people who are confident that a destruction of even greater magnitude is now imminent. The evidence is that Jesus? prophecy will shortly have a major fulfillment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time. They have chosen to remain childless so that they would be less encumbered

    Now let's break this down-:: Why are these people confident that a destruction is NOW IMMINENT? What does imminent mean? In the minds of the avg person would they consider------ "Imminent"-------- to mean--- 6months,maybe a year or would they be thinking 25 or more years?

    Notice this quote:

    . The evidence is that Jesus? prophecy will shortly have a major fulfillment

    Who has determined what constitutes "Evidence" THE LAPD Crime LAB?

    AND what does Shortly mean? So that a couple need not consider having kids?

    3months 9 months a year or would the avg person consider the word "Shortly" to mean 25 yrs?

    Next quote:

    "This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children"

    what is the "THIS" that has cause not a few but "MANY COUPLES" from having kids.

    Did this "THIS" prove true so that the folks who didn't have kids were correct or did it prove to be no more than AN OPINION NOT BASED ON THE BIBLE AT ALL?

    MANY jw who come here and folks like "OLD HIPPIE" clearly fail to see how this type of information- claiming it's authority directly from god through his mouth PC has influenced so many millions of JW in the type of decisions that they have made in their life

    This is why the wt is so dangerous-- they provide so much info in talks and publications that shape and mold folks thinking , value system and outlook on life such as college, kids, jobs, retirement, etc. and why

    Cause jw are to view this as FOOD FROM GOD- NOT OPINIONS FROM THE BOYS IN WRITING

    If the wt did bible commentary on issues they would be fine-- since it would be understood that the "Following is the opinion of the WT Editorial Staff"

    But they don't THEY STATE MATTERS ON issues and say THIS IS NEW LIGHT FROM JAH HIMSELF- then in 5 years we all have seen how God got the light wrong

    The wt paper trail is their worst enemy for it clearly shows to any real researcher that their claim to being "Spirit Directed" is wrong

    Yes WT will be around for years to come since they do sell hope and they promise every new member a "Breach Front Timeshare PC of Property"

    Problem is the same of course it's always for WEEK 53

    James

  • Funchback
    Funchback

    Great expose', JT!

    Tis exactly the reason why my wife and I (both 33 years old) don't have any youngens.

  • minimus
    minimus

    I recommend that you 2 get busy!!!! Times a wasting!=

  • Flowerpetal
    Flowerpetal

    I'm sorry James...I remember those articles...and there was a sister in the cong. I was in at the time who was very, very, upset that she became pregnant in 1974 because the baby would be born in 1975. I wonder now if she is still a witness..and now her baby is all grown up.

    I had my first child in 1978 and the second one in 1985 (at 37). The first one brought my dad out of a depression he was in (non-jw). He was depressed because he felt he made a mistake in selling his home and moving back to the city of his birth. My second child came when my dad was ill and couldn't enjoy him as much. James, I just want to say that it's not too late for you and Lady "C". 40 years of age in this time, is still very young.

  • JT
    JT
    Tis exactly the reason why my wife and I (both 33 years old) don't have any youngens

    the other day my wife was talking and we just listed off the top of our head all of our FORMER FRIENDS many whom are either ex-bethelites like us or currently at bethel with no kids

    and we came up with 48 couples with no kids and either trying to stay at bethel or they are in the field shooting for the Traveling Work, so they have not had any kids waiting to get that letter from the service desk-

    a number of them have been on the SUB_CO list for years just waiting to get a permanent asssigment so they will refuse to have kids, buy a house, decent car, or get into any debt that REG FOLKS GET INTO because one is required to be able to close all thier debt in 30days-

    as they get older and look back on the bogus promise of wt some perhaps will see they wasted thier life - others will just consider themselves faithful

  • JT
    JT
    I recommend that you 2 get busy!!!! Times a wasting

    See Minius

    U-AIN'T- NO- GOOD

    smile

  • Emma
    Emma

    Yes, the "sheep" get the message but the wts can never be held accountable.

  • JT
    JT
    I'm sorry James...I remember those articles...and there was a sister in the cong. I was in at the time who was very, very, upset that she became pregnant in 1974 because the baby would be born in 1975. I wonder now if she is still a witness..and now her baby is all grown up.

    if she is still a jw she will DENY EVERY BEING UPSET and that is what makes this religion so dangerous, most jw will deny deny such an atmosphere ever exisiting in the organization, but for those of us who leaved it we merely smile as a jw tries to deny what we all know was the case

    this once again illustrates the powerful damage that a high control group can do to an otherwise intelligent and reasonable person-

    it has taught us to defend "mother" at all cost and we can understand that mindset, i recall this guy in school , his mom was the local town "HO" throwing "Coochie" around all over town

    and if you asked him he would DENY AND BEAT YOUR A$$- same with a jw to tell them that Mother Org ain't cracked up to be what she claims we see how they become defensive, in fact many of us were the exact same way

    i know i was, cause i was a dyedin the wool Society Man, if it was IN PRINT then it was as good as if god had said it, smile

    I

    had my first child in 1978 and the second one in 1985 (at 37). The first one brought my dad out of a depression he was in (non-jw). He was depressed because he felt he made a mistake in selling his home and moving back to the city of his birth. My second child came when my dad was ill and couldn't enjoy him as much.

    i am glad for you to have kids

    James, I just want to say that it's not too late for you and Lady "C". 40 years of age in this time, is still very young
    Only if those words were true my dear friend - as of this year we cannot have kids of our own, while we are at peace with this fact, it does sadden us to think in terms of how we dedicated so much of our life to this religion some 60yrs between us, yes we started giving to this org the first day we went to school and had to stand out in the hall while they pledged the flag and now to know that jw can EVEN VOTE -- truly sad yet we feel that we are better off than some , esp those we have known for years who are still trapped inside, and even jw who have left the org and are advanced in years we are now able to do some of the things we have dreamed of, we started our own little IT biz, we are back in college , just built a wonderful home and now trying to play catch up with our $$$ we had planned on retiring in THE NEW SYSTEM- smile since that got derailed we thought it might be good to set aside a few coins for old age smile
  • xjw_b12
    xjw_b12

    (((((( Lady "C" and JT ))))))

    Yes I remember those articles, and the propaganda that also spewed from the stage at the assemblies.

    The evidence is that Jesus? prophecy will shortly have a major fulfillment, upon this entire system of things. This has been a major factor in influencing many couples to decide not to have children at this time. They have chosen to remain childless so that they would be less encumbered

    It is obvious, to us all, that was just further drivel about "1975" But the WTBTS has been espousing that excremental diatribe since 1925 in one form, and at one time or another.

    They denounce abortion, while they "seriously discouraged" childbearing, a commandment to the original human couple.

    But they were only too glad to write and print millions of publications geared to children of parents who didn't heed their "wise counsel"

    Take Care

  • JT
    JT
    Yes, the "sheep" get the message but the wts can never be held accountable

    so true ,but do you know what is even more amazing is the SHEEP DON'T WANT TO HOLD THE WT accountable

    being a High Control group is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    think about this- you are a manager - you go to work , lose employees benifit forms, don't process their checks after they turn in their time sheets,

    you evaluate them very harshly

    by telling them they don't do enough work around the company,

    you make them come to work in the worst kind of weather- NEVER CLOSING THE PLANT -

    despite the fact that you don't show up,

    change the employee vacation dates anytime you want to ,telling them that SOON they can take a vacayion- change the empoyee handbook anytime you want to and blame the employee for any PAST statements in the handbook

    never complete a task and after all is said and done, you don't have to be held responsible for it and if anyone questions what you have done,

    THEY can say that "YOU" are DISRESPECTING THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY BY QUESTIONING them and their actions

    hey you got to love it

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