Herk tells it like it is.I second that.
PROTEST RALLY Oct 20th in Canada
by Dogpatch 33 Replies latest jw friends
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Aztec
Joker:
"the world's most dangerous cult" Puh-lease
If billiruben treatment had not been available when I was born my parents would have let me die. My younger siblings would have shared the same fate and the world would have been deprived of our wonderful presence. We were all born with a blood incompatibility with our mother and jaundiced. Two years ago my mother had a splenectomy and she signed all of the paperwork that would let her die rather than have a blood transfusion. I would've had no choice but to watch her die. Strangely she got NO visits from the local congregation but my sister and I, both active apostates, were there everyday checking in on her and our family. I cooked for my family for a month making sure they were okay and my mother was rested. Anything from their congregation? NO! Aside from just the blood issue is shunning which I am very fortunate to not have to deal with on a personal level. If I was DF'd I probably would have to deal with it. I grew up watching my grandparents shun two of their children and my father do the same to his two sisters. It's sick and disgusting! I won't ever shun someone just because I disagree with their religious beliefs! Then there's the pedophile issue which sickens me the most. Ugh! I won't even get into it. All I can do is shake my head...I did have to deal with a physically and emotionally abusive father who noone kept in check. My grandfather knew...KNEW..about the abuse but did nothing. My grandfather was the PO of our congregation when I was a child and my father was an elder. As much as I loved my grandfather I still feel betrayed that he did nothing to stop my father from beating the crap out of my sisters and I. And it does hurt to have your father call you a bitch and say that you are stupid. I've forgiven my father for that but I can't forgive the org for destroying my childhood that I almost didn't get to have thanks to their policies regarding blood. Puh-leese yourself!
I wish I could be there! Too bad I'm so far away from Alberta!
~Aztec
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IronGland
Everyone who goes, get crazy and belligerent and maybe it will end up like this.....
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eisenstein
Thanks for the post Dogpatch,
I would love to go but, not a good time for me...moving and still looking for full-time work...but I will be with everyone there in spirit!!!!
(((((Herk))))) and (((((Aztec)))))
Thank you for reminding me why I do not want to go back!
eisenstein
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berylblue
Respectfully, what is your source of information for the three deaths per day? I don't like to quote information which is not absolutely true. I'm not trying to offend you. This is an honest question.
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herk
berylblue,
what is your source of information for the three deaths per day?
I figured it out in the following way. I'm eager to be corrected if my math is wrong.
According to the American Red Cross, 4 million patients in the U.S. need blood each year. In 2002, that was from a population of 283 million, meaning 1.4% needed a transfusion. JWs in the U.S. had a peak of 1,012,201 publishers. If 1.4% of the JWs are also in need of a transfusion each year, that amounts to about 14,100, meaning about 39 JWs each day in the U.S. alone! The likelihood is that nearly that many die each day due to not receiving the blood they need, and the further likelihood is that at least half of them are children. As mentioned, this says nothing about the JW children who are sacrificed in the rest of the world.
Additionally, when you consider that probably most of the JW children who die from lack of a transfusion are not included in the number of publishers, that increases the number of JW children who die each day.
Herk
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avengers
Dogpatch. I really appreciate the trouble you're going through in setting up rallies like this. I think the WT is a super dangerous cult which destroys families. You're fighting for a worthy cause. You have my blessings
Herk: Amen to everything you said.
Andy
keep up the good work.
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Guest 77
Herk, I read your interesting post. It's so sad that many witnesses are not HAPPY people. They appear to be happy, but down deep their troubled, and they don't know what their troubled about! They should be living the present, learn from past and stop worrying too much about the future. "Come,now, YOU who say: "Today or tomorrow we will journey to this city and will spend a year there (pioneering) and will engage in business (selling mags.) amd make profits," (for the org.) whereas YOU do not know what your life will be tomorrow. For you are a mist appearing for a little while and then disappearing. Instead, you ought to say: If Jehovah wills, WE SHALL LIVE AND ALSO DO THIS OR THAT!" James 4:13-15 Who the hell wants to live a life of uncertainty and fear? Where's their happy lives when their suppose to be serving a happy God.Guest 77
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Uzzah
Herk:
Nothing will blow your credibility to the media quicker than specious reasoning or misapplication of stats.
If you are going to throw that figure around you'd be wise to:
a. Find a simpler way to explain it for the media's sake, and
b. make sure you emphasize that it is a statistical figure (estimation)
I wish all of you well in this endeavour. Please conisder toning down the rhetoric and stick to facts.
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herk
Uzzah,
What happened? Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?
Who said I was writing for the media? Where have I engaged in "misapplication of the facts"? If you felt a need to be so critical about how extremely complicated my explanation is, why didn't you show a simpler way? What "rhetoric" needs to be toned down? Where have we ignored the facts? Don't I get any benefit of the doubt for saying "I'm eager to be corrected if my math is wrong."?
As far as I can determine, all the facts and experiences related above that show the WT Society to be evil are true! Or don't you believe JWs are doing tremendous harm to their members and others?
Your little temper tantrum makes me think you lost a little something today, my good man (or is it woman?).
Herk
