Good luck over there...
Most Popular Boys Name in England?
by cofty 22 Replies latest social current
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Skepsis
I think things are not black or white.
I've been assigned for years to a foreign language congregation where most of the territory was composed by people from the Maghreb (Morocco, Algeria), Lebanese...
Although it's true some of them are Muslim radicals, others are moderate who could be considered "cultural Muslims" and there are others who have migrated to Europe because they don't like the religious environment where they grow up.
I'm not so pessimistic about European future.
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ctrwtf
Re read the right leaning Examiner's coverage again. Not 15% of immigrants are terrorists. Rather 15% of the FBI's overall investigations focus on immigrants. I'm glad they're investigating, that's what they do. But not 15% of immigrants are terrorists. The title of the article is misleading.
The FBI has revealed that at least 15 percent of the agency's terrorism investigations focus on immigrants who arrived as refugees.
I just don't see the islamic terrorist behind every bush. I live and work in NY and aside from 9/11 most of the "terrorism" is one off nutjobs. Nutjobs. Get the Comey reference?
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cofty
Skepsis - You say that "some of them are Muslim radicals". But for some reason you are not concerned.
Guess how many Muslim radicals are too many?
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Simon
Re read the right leaning Examiner's coverage again.
Typical first salvo is to try and discredit the facts. The real shocking news is that this news is absolutely suppressed by the liberal media who claim to provide "news". WHY?
Not 15% of immigrants are terrorists.
And then obfuscate by setting up a straw-man - where have I suggested that 15% of immigrants are terrorists?
Rather 15% of the FBI's overall investigations focus on immigrants.
Still not right. 15% of the FBI's terrorism investigations were immigrants.
I'm glad they're investigating, that's what they do. But not 15% of immigrants are terrorists. The title of the article is misleading.
No, you are trying to create confusion and suggest that the article is somehow underhand and dare I say "fake news". It can't be helped if, even though correct language is used, that people conspire to misunderstand and misinterpret it.
The FBI has revealed that at least 15 percent of the agency's terrorism investigations focus on immigrants who arrived as refugees.
Yes, and isn't that absolutely shocking? Because those are just the terrorism investigations uncovered so far. Not the ones that will happen in 2, 5, 10, 20 years time.
And this is a country best placed to limit and vet immigrants. It shows the scale of the problem. It shows the catastrophic decisions that have been made in Europe to throw open the gates to the barbarians.
And also (oh, this one must sting), that Trump was right. The ban in immigration of certain people from certain countries is absolutely right, proper and sensible.
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pale.emperor
I used to work in Immigration and the stories i could tell...
It was very common for illegals to destroy documents upon arrival at the airport and claim asylum under another nationality. The sob stories would all be exactly the same. I mean, word for word. People would bring their kids with them, then after they were granted citizenship years later would turn up and say that they're NOT their kids but actually their sisters kids, so thanks to Human Rights the Home Office would HAVE TO let the real mother of the kids come to the UK and grant her an indefinite visa. That type of thing was common.
And i wont even start on the criminal records of some (not all) but some that were wanted for crimes in their home counties but claimed asylum here. And we granted them! Because, you know, "...in Iran they'd kill him for raping a girl. We cant send him back there to such a dangerous regime."
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scotsman
Islam has been trying to invade and take over Europe and the rest of the world for the last 1,400 years.
Not all Muslims are the enemy.
2% of baby boys born last year in England and Wales have one traditional Muslim name: are they all part of Simon's invasion? According to Cofty not all of them are the enemy, but how will we know which babies are a threat?
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darkspilver
pale.emperor: I used to work in Immigration and the stories i could tell...
Australia REJECTS asylum for 'Iranian Gay JW'Would-be refugee’s gay claims ‘not credible’
The Australian, May 23, 2017
An Iranian illegal immigrant who faked a homosexual relationship and claimed he had torn up the Koran and become a Jehovah’s Witness has had his application for asylum rejected in Federal Court.
The man, known in court documents as “CVS16”, came to Australia by boat in May 2013. He was granted a bridging visa in March 2014, but the visa was revoked four months later when he was charged, and later convicted, with one count of reckless wounding.
In September 2015, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton invited the man to apply for a protection visa, and in February last year, following an earlier incomplete application and interview with a departmental delegate, he applied.
In a statement attached to his application, he claimed to “fear persecution on the basis of his membership of the particular social group comprising homosexuals, and his conversion in 2013 to Christianity and adherance to the Jehovah’s Witnesses faith”.
The man’s application was rejected by the department in July. Mr Dutton then referred the case to the Immigration Assessment Authority to be reviewed, as mandated under the Migration Act.
The authority comprehensively upheld the department’s decision.
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karter
Cofty.
Enoch Powell....nuff said.
Karter.
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cofty
Karter - Douglas Murray looks at Enoch Powell's 1969 "Rivers of blood" speech in his new book.
His language handed ammunition to his enemies and provided cover for the extreme right. As a result it has made sensible debate about immigration almost impossible ever since.