by Amazing 22 Replies latest jw friends
Hello Amazing,
a really thought provoking post!
Never mind certain ...answers! I'll write later about
the concept of God and organisation but the point you
raised about a " f a m i l y ", is more consistent
with what the Bible says.
Agape, J.C. MacHislopp
G'day Mac,
the point you
raised about a " f a m i l y ", is more consistent
with what the Bible says
Well, that counts out the successors to Joe Ratherflawed, none of whom have ever understood the concept of family. They have barely experienced sex and a couple relationship in a cloistered atmosphere. References to family in the publications are therefore invariably paternalistic in nature.
Ahh, the joy of hearing the voices of our children!
Cheers, mate,
Ozzie
Freedom is not having to wear a tie.
My guess is that you have never read the Bible but that you are a huckster; one of those con artists and imposters whom the apostle Paul said would advance from bad to worse. I suppose, in some perverse way, you are letting your "advancement" become manifest, as the scripture advises. The truth is, that Jehovah has alway had an organization, at least as long as there have been creatures in his universe.
Families do not operate like some well oiled military Organization
And yet Jehovah is referred to as both the Father and Jehovah of armies. That very designation of "Jehovah of armies" indicates that God's family is organized as a well oiled military. At least that is the way God has chosen to orchestrate things whilel his universe is under war time conditions. Jesus Christ also spoke of God's armies when he asked Peter if he was not aware that the Son of God could summons 12 legions of angels in a moment. A legion of course was a Roman military division. So, clearly, you are cluless about God's affairs. / You Know
The truth is, that Jehovah has alway had an organization,
Oh REALLY? Dear "You Know?"
Then by holy spirit YOU are asked .......
WHERE was that "organization" during the 'medieval' times? What name was it called?
WHERE was God's organization in the days of Isaiah the prophet? How about Daniel?
How about Ezekiel, Habbakukk, Haggai, Zephaniah, Zechariah, JEREMIAH, etc. etc.
When such prophets were sent to prophesy AGAINST Jerusalem. What "organization" did God have to use during those LONG, long years?
Don't get me wrong, Jah has always had a KINGDOM in heaven which is FAR greater than any organization. And to call his heavenly kingdom an "organization" is actually a blasphemy of God's "residence" (Revelation 13:6). But he did NOT always have an "earthly organization" and God did not always "work THROUGH an organization.
May you have peace,
Aaron
Then by holy spirit YOU are asked .......
If you really had the holy spirit as you pretend you would know the answer to your own question.
WHERE was that "organization" during the 'medieval' times? What name was it called?
Paul said that all anointed Christians were enrolled as citizens of a heavenly city. That symbolic city is the capital of God's organization.
WHERE was God's organization in the days of Isaiah the prophet? How about Daniel?
The fleshly nation of Israel was an organization that God used. During the Babylonish captivity of the Jews the organization did not exist. It was however reorganized and then again disbanned after Christ established the Christian organization. the human members of God's organization today are called by divine decree---Jehovah's Witnesses
When such prophets were sent to prophesy AGAINST Jerusalem. What "organization" did God have to use during those LONG, long years?
Israel was always God's organization even during their apostasy. That was the legal basis for the prophets prophesying against her in the first place. If they had not been God's covennated organized people there would have been no reason for Jehovah to take them to task the way that he did. / You Know
Bobby-Booby Boy - You Know: Tom Cabbean wrote a very good book dealing with whether God works through and organization or even has one for that matter. You can order it from Commentary Press on line. You can get there by going to: http://www.commentarypress.com/
Aside from that, I don't agree with your stretch of scripture where you cite the term, for example "Jehovah of Armies" as some kind of proof that God has an organization or well oiled military machine as proof of an organization. You obviously fail to understand Hebrew, ancient Jewsih culture, etc. such that you do not even understand that context in which that was said. - Amazing
Aside from that, I don't agree with your stretch of scripture where you cite the term
Of course you don't agree with it. It shows that you are a liar and that you don't know what you are talking about. / You Know
Bobby-Booby-You-Know: You say about me,"Of course you don't agree with it. It shows that you are a liar and that you don't know what you are talking about. "
I will be more than happy mto engage you in discussion of this at a time when you can calm down, bring your emotions into check. I do understand you and your religion Bobby. And I find you an interesting enigma among JWs, because in direct defiance to the GB's directive in the Nov. 99 KM, you are here on the Internet, talking to those whom you call Apostates. So, I realize that I am dealing with a rebel-renegade JW who by WTS standards would be Disfellowshipped for associating with apostates on the Internate.
Given your seduction by the mentality of the La Rouche people, I am more than convinced that you are just blowing smoke up my anal orifice. - Amazing
Bobby-Booby-You-Know: You say about me,"Of course you don't agree with it. It shows that you are a liar and that you don't know what you are talking about. "
I will be more than happy mto engage you in discussion of this at a time when you can calm down, bring your emotions into check. I do understand you and your religion Bobby. And I find you an interesting enigma among JWs, because in direct defiance to the GB's directive in the Nov. 99 KM, you are here on the Internet, talking to those whom you call Apostates. So, I realize that I am dealing with a rebel-renegade JW who by WTS standards would be Disfellowshipped for associating with apostates on the Internate.
Given your seduction by the mentality of the La Rouche people, I am more than convinced that you are just blowing smoke up my anal orifice. - Amazing
Disagreement does not make one a liar.
That's true, unless the person knows better. In your case, having formerly been an anointed person who had been enlightened, you obviously know better than to churn out the kind of nonsense that you do. I therefore am justified in calmly, and deliberately, coming to the conclusion that you are a liar.
/ You Know
