Administering a Blood Transfusion.....D/F grounds?

by ScoobySnax 17 Replies latest jw friends

  • rocketman
    rocketman

    Very good points Scully!

  • RAYZORBLADE
    RAYZORBLADE

    Scoobz....if it were me in the hospital bed, and I knew it was you there (RN) on the ward I was placed, I would allow you to administer the blood transfusion, and tell you, from me to you:

    "It's OK Scott, I trust your ability to administer this safely, and monitor me like any other patient in this health care facility".

    I would be glad it would be you, someone who cares, someone who could probably crack me up good with a 'naughty joke'. Just what any patient needs, a health care professional with heart.

    Me being a former JW, I would also tell you, if I was under your care, that I'd be proud of you for fulfilling my wishes and respecting them.

    I would sooner place my life in your hands, than god.

    I do mean that Scott. Because I trust you.

    Thank you.

  • buffalosrfree
    buffalosrfree

    From my experiences of talking with JDUBs Nurses, its just fine we had one in congregation who worked in IC ad gave a lot of blood transfusions to patients, she was also a pioneer. Never had andy problems to my knowledge with the congreagtion heavies. Buff

  • JT
    JT
    Why the hell is it so difficult to be a JW, so difficult to do what you think is right, and what is expected. I despair sometimes

    allow me to give you the simple and straight answer-

    the wt society does exactly what it condemns in other religions, it combines TRUTH WITH FALSE

    it combines bible supported dogmas with manmade dogmas

    the problem that you and millions of other jw face is the following

    1. you don't know with dogma are made man or not

    2 you MUST obey all of them as IF THEY WERE ALL SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLE AND NOT the opinions of a group of guys sitting around a conference table in NYC

    this my friend whether you like it or not is the bottomline

    as a jw you spent countless hours knocking on folks doors telling them that if their religion was teaching dogmas that were man made they needed to get out of it, yet when the wt does the exact same thing

    you and I were taught to make up an exuse as to why it is ok to teach what clearly has turned out to be man made dogmas OVER AND OVER AGAIN

  • blondie
    blondie

    Scooby, I will second what Buff said. There are 5 major hospitals in this area. Quite a few JWs are nurses. There has never been an DFing action taken against a nurse that administered blood as part of his/her job duties. One did ask for a transfer because she personally could not administer blood.

    Blondie

  • ScoobySnax
    ScoobySnax

    Oh Ray!!

    For goodness sake man, you got me blubbing here! What kind words. I'd gladly look after you and anyone else here, I do it all the time. Sometimes I don't particularly like the person, but I have to be impartial in my care. Its just that sometimes I'm more "impartial" than other times.

    I'll give you an example, in the week I went over to the next ward into a bay of 6 patients of elderly old women. As I walked in the nurses there were on a drug round and in the corner bed was an old girl calling out mostly nonscence. The nurse in charge of the ward there said to me, "she's doing my head in, all day she's been shouting out, I wish she'd shut up....can you give her her medication..." So I went and sat on this old girls bed and calmed her down, when she'd settled I asked her what was wrong and why she was calling out. She looked at me and said that she was worried that her son might come in and she wouldn't see him, that she couldn't find her glasses to see properly (they were on her head), that because of all the noise from her "hissing oxygen mask" she wouldn't be able to hear him, and because she was amongst 5 other old people he might not regonise her (like you wouldn't recognise your own mum)

    This poor old girl had been worried all day, I told her that her glasses were right there on her head and helped her put them on, that once her nebuliser had finished, we'd be able to switch the oxygen off so she could hear properly, and that I'd call her son and wait with her till he came in, and that she was lucky to have a son that loved her enough to visit her.

    I'd been so stressed on my own ward as its acute surgery and younger people, that I felt a bit stressed thinking that I was getting behind with my work sitting here talking with this old lady. I made the phonecall though and waited with her. Just before her son turned up, she lent across and grabbed my hand and said "You are the kindest young man I have ever met....please stay with me" Suddenly all that stress from my own ward and a 10 hour shift faded away.....this was what nursing is about. She was a bit confused and eccentric, but mainly she was just scared, and in a strange environment. I showed her the hand held nurse call system, and she whispered to me, I'm gonna hide this under my blankets here so I can call for you. See all them nurses getting cross with her, when really she was just frightened.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm no angel, sometimes we get some people in and I want to bash them in rather than help them!!, but well you know. Something like that makes you understand.

  • ScoobySnax
    ScoobySnax

    Just realised I'm getting off the subject here. waffling on.

    Its not that I have any problem in myself with setting up blood for someone who chooses to have it. I just wondered how I stand in Jehovah's eyes and the societies for doing this. I'm inactive, so don't think it would really be a problem .Its probably a very simplistic question to ask here, and a daft one considering the nature of this forum. Maybe I'm just daft! I've read alot of what some have replied and it makes sense. Its not really a blood issue question, more a moral one based on convictions.

  • bebu
    bebu

    Hi Scoob,

    Most medical professionals here in the US might opt out of performing or referring certain procedures (i.e., abortions) due to personal conscience. Personal conscience is already settled for you here, so is this an academic question--or do you think that you would change your actions if you learned that there was a chance of being df? ...If you would, what's the motivation?

    I think you sound like a great nurse! If no one else thanked you for helping that old lady--I will!! ("Thank you!!")

    (BTW, I think your sense of humor and honestly are assets, too.)

    bebu

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