Those of who are trying to get out of the Borg....

by Flowerpetal 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • Flowerpetal
    Flowerpetal
    Why go out in service? Why not just hand in a service report? Unless, of course, you're living with family members who are dubs and are therefore being watched carefully. I've been handing in fake service reports for over a year, mainly to avoid the elders prying and to save my mother another heart attack.

    As per my previous posts, I'm caring for my elderly mother who is still a dub but unable to get out much due to strokes and a heart attack. No one knows I'm not going out, and I am quite pleased at using the WTS' own definition of "theocratic strategy" against them - screwing up their year-end accounting records. I do, of course, speak about the "truth" to others, though not at all in a way the WTS would approve . I am trying to work out a plan whereby I move to another congregation (different language group), then "move" again later on, at which time I will have no contact whatsoever with the dubs, not even my fake service reports.

    I do realize, however, that it is much more difficult for others who are more closely watched. So far I have been unable to fly under the radar.

    Ascot, what is the "truth" that you speak to others?

    I don't care to go in service if it's just to count time or turn in a report. Sometimes I get the impression here, that a lot of posters here, still equate God with the organization. You can turn your backs on the org. without turning them on the Creator, who I think deserves some credit for our existence.

  • acsot
    acsot

    Flower:

    It was a tongue-in-cheek comment! For example, I tell people at work about the pedophile problem, cover-ups, flip-flops in doctrine, etc. I'm "anti-witnessing" if you will.

    As for my current beliefs, I consider myself agnostic, with leanings towards paganism and Buddhism. As for a single entity Creator, I think the jury's still out on that one .

    If it weren't for my mother needing the care she does, I wouldn't have anything to do with JWs at all. I don't give a flip about the organization nor its so-called elders, but don't want to cause any unnecessary grief to my mother; she's 81 and is living on 30% heart capacity, so I don't know how much longer she'll be around . That's why I don't mind putting up the pretense.

  • metatron
    metatron

    Write down one hour on a field service report at least once every six months. This way, you aren't technically inactive

    and busy elders may ignore you, if you keep making excuses.

    metatron

  • Flowerpetal
    Flowerpetal

    OK Ascot! Maybe I'm just thinking out loud. Although I believe in a Creator, and do want to offer some kind of praise, there are times that it seems he is so far away from us. And I wonder, all those prayers I've said in the past, were answers from him or just circumstances in my life working themselves out.

    I suppose I'm wondering if anybody else here who still goes from door-to-door feel like I do, or are just going thru the motions. And if they are, how do they feel about God being personally in their lives still---if they ever thought that at all.

  • Flowerpetal
    Flowerpetal
    I have been door to door maybe twice in the last three years. Why should I go when the person at the door won't know that I am NOT a child abuser? Since the WT allows child abusers to go from door to door without telling anyone, I refuse to go.

    And if they don't like it, they can just change their policy.

    Pistoff, If they changed their policy, would you go?

  • acsot
    acsot
    those prayers I've said in the past, were answers from him or just circumstances in my life working themselves out.

    Hey Flower, I know what you mean. However, for every prayer to "Jehovah" that was answered (or so I thought at the time), were countless prayers which were not, and prayers involving my very serious doubts. So why didn't "Jehovah" answer my prayers begging him to clear up my confusion and doubts; doesn't James say that wisdom will be given to him that asks? So, I just started feeling more and more alienated from "Jehovah" the more I prayed.

    Nowadays, when I meditate and "pray" to Father Universe and Mother Earth, I receive just as much, if not more, "answers" than I did when praying to "Jehovah". There has been so much synchronicity in my life since disconnecting from the borg that I wonder where it's coming from. Perhaps my life energy is now more in tune with the energy of the universe, so that things flow more smoothly for me. I really don't know.

    I do know that creative visualization has worked for me; maybe that's what was happening on some level when I used to pray to "Jehovah"; maybe my mind was creating the circumstances I needed to be in.

    Looks like this has veered off your main topic heading ! If you want to discuss it more, PM me, I'll send you my e-mail address.

    Ac

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    One poster here a few weeks back says he takes delight in putting a false report in to contribute to the already false figures in the Yearbook and January 1st Watchtower -- so do not go out in service and just put an hour or two down now and again - keeps you active -- put work on for the secretary and helps the figures get even more meaningless

  • Spudinator
    Spudinator

    This is a real challenge sometimes. Did you hear the suggested presentation for the new Awake! dealing with the Oil Crisis? It is hilarious. You (read: all apostates) can't really use any of the suggested presntations with any hope of being taken seriously. <hypocrisy> Just offer the mags. I'm always amazed at how many people end up taking the mags when you just low-key it. </hypocrisy> Maybe they just feel sorry for me, but then, so do I!

  • Singing Man
    Singing Man

    The last time I went out in service I sold the books so I could buy me some medication for my seizures, thanks bethel and all you hard working drones. And once I sold a few books so I could go out to a dance and take pretty women out for a night of singing and two pitchers of beer. Hootie hoo

  • metatron
    metatron

    Yup, that's me!

    JUST IMAGINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The power to disprove the Watchtower's statistics lies in your hands!!

    You can be a fake publisher -- and know the sweet satisfaction of smiling to yourself when you read

    the reported number of publishers in your country, in the Kingdumb Ministry

    "I don't think so!"

    metatron

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