Does the sensationalism on this site help anyone?

by logansrun 41 Replies latest jw friends

  • FlyingHighNow
    FlyingHighNow

    Logan,

    To be fair, I haven't read the threads you mentioned as examples of sensationalism.

    Perhaps I'm just being overly serious. Perhaps. But, here's something to think about: the more sensational and "angry" the topic, the more we appear to be what the Society has depicted us as.

    The society constantly worried us with concern over what we would appear like to the world. We had to watch every word, every step and couldn't even drive dirty cars or neglect our lawns because we might make a bad impression on the world. Are you allowing this old JW thinking to creep into your thoughts and concerns a bit?

    Just a thought.

    Simon, you are so right. Many of us are still sitting here with our heads spinning as we look at the tragedies the WTBTS has caused in our lives. If I allowed myself to, I could become very, very bitter.

    Heather

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost
    I think when people stop making revenge on the WTS the aim of their life they finally stop the WTS from causing them more hurt. Until then, it always has a power and is still disrupting their life

    Absolutely right! So many claim to be ex-dubs but demonstrate by their words and actions that they haven't moved too far away.

    As I've often pointed out, there must be something in our lives of a positive nature to replace the hole that the borg once filled.

    Cheers, Ozzie

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    logansrun:

    Thread topics like "How to mess up the Society"...."What Dirty Tricks Would You Pull on the Watchtower" and "The Society is about to go down the tubes!" don't impress me. You?

    Why do you feel that topics should impress you? I don't see any basis for that assumption. I certainly don't make posts to impress people; but perhaps your choice of words is obscuring your meaning?

    Honesty and forthrightness. Deconstruction and understanding. I feel these are the qualities that will expose the undesireable elements in the Society as well as help people within and without it.

    Yes. And? Whether you like it or not, this is a community of survivors, all different but united by a similarity of experienece. Whilst to you jokes and faceitous humour may not be appropriate, obviously to others they are either appropriate or possibly even needed; laughter is a natural human emotion, do we have to avoid all humour related to experience with the Collective (see, there's one) or our view of them now?

    Is your disturbance perhaps due to the fact you are not used to a social group where diversity of opinion is allowed and indeed encouraged?

    Of course, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong.

    Likewise. And I don't have to feel bad if I am wrong; one of the dehumanising aspects of cultic experience is that being wrong is not allowed!

    ... the more sensational and "angry" the topic, the more we appear to be what the Society has depicted us as.

    Yes, but do we really want to let the Society carry on controlling our behaviour even when we are no longer part of it?

    To say 'they depict us as' and to act in response to that is to give credance to that depiction and its accuracy. Of course people are angry. Of course people laugh. Having been forced to live half-lives for sometime DECADES, are we going to ask them not to be angry with their abusers?

    Unrealistic, in my opinion...

    Truth need not hide nor wear fancy trousers.

  • Guest 77
    Guest 77

    Logan, I expect people to vent, judge and be very expressive with their distasteful experience with the JW's. The problem I have is when this same expressiveness carrys over into years, years and into years. It just ain't healthy and it gets to be a broken record.

    Guest 77

  • sens
    sens
    LOL sens.

    you luv it logan...

  • Cassiline
    Cassiline
    Logan, I expect people to vent, judge and be very expressive with their distasteful experience with the JW's. The problem I have is when this same expressiveness carrys over into years, years and into years. It just ain't healthy and it gets to be a broken record.

    Guest 77

    I have to agree with Guest on this one. I have seen the threads which you address Logan and I understand your question. I do feel however 99.999% of those threads are made in jest. Many use levity to deal with pain. I do however see a problem with those who look for an excuse to continually make this type of thread, those who continue to bash and name call without justification.

    Those who can't let go of their anger and rage will soon let it eat them alive. There has to be a point in everyone?s life where they move on and realize that a certain someone or entity is not the basis for their continued pain or anger. Then they can perhaps see their own inaction of learning to heal and move beyond instead of using their anger and hate as a crutch. This allows them to continue to find fault with that which they have allowed themselves to become obsessed.

    Cassi

  • Singing Man
    Singing Man

    It does not bother me in the lest, I can not count how manytimes I have read in the WT where they have slamed the catholics or other religions. Other than providing bible studies with people the witness don't do much good. I can go to most any main line religion and get at lest a free meal, I can't say that about the witness's.

  • avengers
    avengers
    I can go to most any main line religion and get at lest a free meal, I can't say that about the witness's.

    Wine and crackers sound ok?

    Just messing around, although if a witness would read my comment would it hurt the "cause"?

    Andy

  • willy_think
    willy_think

    There is a lot of talk about active JWs and the "cause" on JWD of late. it seems to me, a new place for exiting JWs might be called for, but changing JWD to meet the need is not the answer. there are needs being met here with what we have. the WT has taken so much from us and i for one say on more.

  • blondie
    blondie

    I came to this site as an active JW and the battles, exaggerated statements, and wishful thinking did not scare me away. It did take me awhile to post. But I filtered out the bad, and found the nuggets of information and people whose comments challenged me to examine my beliefs more closely.

    You have to toughen up a little. The abuse you get at the KH and will get when you starting disconnecting will be worse than almost anything here and it will be from people you know and say they "love" you.

    Blondie

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