I am stunned!!...CharitablePlanning

by sf 51 Replies latest jw friends

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman
    The Watchtower Kult Does NOT do ANYTHING "right"!

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    And you call me dogmatic?
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    "but" Seeker,

    you chose to ignore my preceding proviso:

    "I'll imitate your dogmatism for a momento:"
    immediately before I wrote:
    "The Watchtower Kult Does NOT do ANYTHING "right"!

    So, when are you going down to the Kingdom Hall and do that Straw Poll? ... or you could wait out in the parking lot and call it an Exit Poll.

    And then report back to us about how many jWs view themselves as a "Religion"?

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  • somebody
    somebody

    12/8/76 AWAKE!

    "Some organizations actually encourage wrong motives by publicizing the names of their donors."

    11/1/2000 Watchtower "Use It Wisely!" ( on the page, conveniently, right before the full page about the Charitable Planning Arrangemnt, so JWs DO know it exists, unless they don't read their own magazines)

    "I'm ten years old. I'm sending you this money so you can buy paper or anything else to make books."--Cindy

    "I love to send you this money to make more books for us. I saved this money from helping my daddy. So use it wisely!"--Pam, age seven.

    "I was sad about the hurricane. I hope you are safe. This [$2,U.S.]is all the money in my bank."--Allison, age four

    "My name is Rudy and I'm 11 years old. My brother Ralph is six. And my sister Judith is two and a half. We having been saving our allowance from the past 3 months to help our brothers in [a war torn area]. We were able to save 20 dollars that we are sending now."

    "I feel sorry for the brothers [hit by a hurricaine]. I made 17 dollars working with my dad. I'm not sending this money for anything in particular, so I'll let you decide." --Maclean, age eight.

    I agree with Tally in that JWs don't BELIEVE they are a religion. No more than they BELIEVE that Jesus it the TRUTH or the only way for salvation. They BELIEVE the WBTS is the only way to salvation. When I was younger, I wasn't allowed to even right down that I was a Jehovah's Witness on the millions of forms the school gives you to fill out at the beginning of each school year. (thank God ) I was told by my parents that I was no religion. religion was for satan's people. Anyone know what year it was ever published by the society that they bacame a religion?

    11/22/73 AWAKE!

    In the Name of Religion

    "Religious groups and those who collect in the name of the Lord are the worst offenders."

    Here is a paragraph from the letter that the society included with the Charitable Planning brochure I requested, and received:

    "Your desire to "honor Jehovah with your valuable things" is commendable. May he bless the generous spirit you display."

    other than that, I'm staying out of the seeker and tally "disagreement". I need all my limbs for wrestling.

    peace,
    somebody

  • Had Enough
    Had Enough

    Hi there Scally!

    I understand why you are so affected by this kind of tactics the WTS uses to further "their cause". Thanks for sharing that with us...it helps to see why you are so passionate about exposing the WTS.

    This info puts a knot in my stomach but not because I have a similar experience to yours, but just because I think of all the people who scrimp and save to make ends meet and still feel obligated to "donate," "contribute" or leave their meagre belongings to the WTS in their wills, or even "loan" money to the WTS with the idea that they will eventually get it paid back when they need it.

    These ones think they are doing such a service for God in helping to vindicate his name but its plain to see in the topic: "Governing Body Exposed" at
    , http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=6211&site=3
    the extravagance the GB use the money for. Living and traveling like the ordinary r&f Joe Blow will never see, like luxury penthouses, Cadillacs etc. with money donated to "further the witness work".

    I'd love to travel to Europe, stay in ritzy hotels, eat in posh restaurants, but I doubt I ever will. Even if I will ever be able to afford it, the point is, these men are supposed to have renounced wealth or living a wealthy lifestyle. And yet they live better than most people, and even if they don't have a huge bank account what would they need one for. Their every need, or should I say want, is looked after.

    Hi somebody: regarding that info from the Awakes on children who have donated their pennies and dollars saved from allowances etc.... how sickening to print that for the obvious sole purpose of using it to motivate more people to "donate" whatever they can scrape together, and then to also say donations should be kept unnamed.

    The more I find out here, the more sickened I am at how blind I was and how blind the remaining JWs are today. Without seeing the whole picture we are seeing, the average JW will probably just skip over these kind of points without realizing the full impact of them.

    I thank you all everyday for all the hard work you people do at finding out these things. The more I read the more I know I will never let myself be blinded again.

    Had Enough

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman

    Schomebody!

    What a Keen Eye you have for Watchtower Hypocrisy.

    Are you in anyway related to Sherlock?

    To juxtapose the quotes from the 12/8/76 AWAKE! and the 11/1/2000 WT was just Brilliant.

    "Some organizations actually encourage wrong motives by publicizing the names of their donors."

    You mean, like Cindy, Pam, Allison, Rudy, Ralph, Judith and Maclean ?

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    other than that, I'm staying out of the seeker and tally "disagreement". I need all my limbs for wrestling.

    AW-RITE! RASSLING!!

    btw, I think I'll pull out my "Religion" book written by da Judge and OCR some quotes and post 'em here, schmaybe schtart a new thread, and see who here thinks what he put in print is still "current thinking",... 'nother words: 'New Light' which never became 'Old Light', because no new light superceded the old new light, iffying you can follow that!
    (it takes a highly kult-trained mind to follow that line of thought)

    A sure heck of a LOT of what Da Judge taught is STILL current thinking amongst the R&F. Rutherford's low view of women is still "current" and "practiced" by the men in jehovah-Of-The-WT's "Religion".

    Ain't that right, Seeker?

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  • Seeker
    Seeker

    Already started a new thread on just that very topic, Tally. Feel free to add what you want.

  • sf
    sf

    ~~ bumping up ~~ [NOTE: OLD THREAD]

  • hubert
    hubert

    Thanks for bumping this up, Skally.

    I had never seen this.

    Hubert

  • johnny cip
    johnny cip

    hi skally: nice to see old light. that is still new light !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! about 3 years ago when i read the nov 1 wt about giving your souls+ your every possion to the CRAPtower. i called the donation dept at CRAPERTOWER. they loved me till is asked for a full financial statement. .. but i kept my cool , and had them send all the info to my dad. then i waited about a month. and blasted him on how they PASS THE MORE THAN THE PLATE BUT ASK FOR YOUR LUNGS. . AND WANT EVERYTHING ,THAT IS ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE TO GO TO YOUR KIDS. WHAT A bunch of blood suckers. i could go in for hours on how i EXPOSED MY CLOSE JW AQUENTENCES ABOUT THIS . SOME YEARS AGO. but none of them will talk to me any longer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! skally is always on the make.

  • sf
    sf

    {{ Jumps into johnnys arms and gives him a huge, warm HUG! }}

    I love you.

    sKally

  • Nemesis
    Nemesis
    Hi sf,
    I hope you are ok. Did you know you can download the whole brochure here as a pfd file?
    It's about 1.53MB. Best to right click and download to your desktop, as it's a bit slow if your open the pdf direct from a web browser and sometimes stalls.
    http://www.angelfire.com/home/cynicus/pdf/CharitablePlanning.pdf
    Kind Regards,
    Nemesis

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