I am under the impression that it IS much worse for women--is that the general concensus of this group?
God Have Mercy on Sister K.
by metatron 19 Replies latest jw friends
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Mulan
My sister in law, who no longer speaks to me, used to tell us that "all the Circuit Overseer's wives are nuts." By that, she meant they were all on anti depressants and all on special diets, and all in poor health. She has been a regular pioneer for about 10 years, and I thought she had a bad attitude. She was just calling it like she saw it. Now I'm the bad guy.
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FlyingHighNow
I am under the impression that it IS much worse for women--is that the general concensus of this group?
KG,
I'm not a man but I believe that it was worse for women. We didn't have a voice in the org. We were treated like children by many of the men including our own husbands at times. The way I see it is that the org. effectively turned millions of women into Stepford Wives without using robot technology. Fear was not perfectly effective; but it was a lot cheaper and more legal than replacing wives with robots. I knew a few sisters who swore they would never marry again if their husbands should die. They preferred the prospect of lifelong loneliness to the demeaning headship arrangement.
Thankfully some of the brothers truly loved their wives and treated them with respect. They didn't have to force the headship thing because where there is true love there is no power struggle.
Heather
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scared1
I agree things are tough for women. I have been on anti depressants for nearly 10 years now..started on them at 17. Things have been worse lately, I was one of those married at 18, still married(to a JW-9 years older than me), miserable, seems to be no way out. I can't talk to anyone about this, if I leave my marriage I will be totally on my own, which seems frightening to me. I used to be one of those that had hope, but lately, have none. Been coming here hoping to get some advice, my story is a weird one, maybe soon I will be brave enough to share.
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dmouse
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Sorry to hear how you feel Scared1. Yes, you will find lots of kind people here who will try to help you, (as well as a few $$$holes!).
Share when you feel ready. You might want to engage in some light-hearted stuff first to get a feel for the board.
Anyway, Welcome to the board!
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ESTEE
Welcome to the forum Sacred1 ...
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Yeah, I agree about the contradictions. Remember ... these people have been trained not to think by themselves. When they are in the group, at the meeting, they are doing the "collective think" ... They are not aware of their own individual differing thoughts. There is no cognition there. Their mouth is on autopilot, what comes out is society approved. It has to be. Or they would be on the hot seat for apostasy. That will continue to go on for years because they are on a treadmill. Go to meetin' ... go in service ... read your magazines ... read your daily text ... Go to meetin' ... go in service ... read your magazines ... read your daily text. I see it on this forum also. People here still believing that the dubs have exclusive rights to holy spirit, or the guarantee that the dubs are the only ones who will survive armageddon, or that there even is a real armageddon coming... All part of the brainwash ... Has it ever occured to anyone that those are cult teachings instilled in its members for the control factor???
Time to git some new beliefs ... functional ones... 'cuz if someone still believes the jw philosophy ...then go back and be a dub ...
ESTEE
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scared1
I've always wondered why those who profess to love their neighbor, are so quick to judge and leave out in the cold those who don't think exactly like them. I remember that as a child(age 5), thinking, how can they be so sure they are the "ones" chosen by God if they tell us not to trust man, but aren't they being led by a group of men, how can they be so sure they are being led down the right path? Of course when I brought this up, I was quickly told not to think that way, and just leave things in God's hands,study your WT, go out in service, comment every meeting, and you'll be fine.
Its gotten to the point where I cannot be a hypocrite anymore, I can't go out and talk to others about something I don't have confidence in,( not God's kingdom-I believe in that), but this religion. Why would I want to bring an innocent into a place where ppl are quick to judge you for what you wear, how much money you make, and how many hours you put in on f/s, and whether u married a bethelite or elder?
The pills don't seem to work anymore, therapy is helping some, much to the chagrin of my spouse(jw elder), he's afraid i'm gonna put the "organiz." in a bad light..or even worse...him..as I alluded to..this marriage is messed up. This org., is all I've known, I was born into it, all my friends, family, are here, if I leave, I am on my own..and that scares me a bit.
Thanks..needed to vent a little..
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petespal2002
There are lots around like Sister K. but they remember the apostle Peter, "Lord, where would we go away to. You alone have sayings of everlasting life?"
In a way, a good question!
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FlyingHighNow
Petes,
He said Lord, you alone have sayings of everlasting life. He was speaking to Jesus, not the governing body of the WTBTS. Key words in that statement? You alone.
Scared 1. There is tons of hope for you! There are so many former JWs, me included who have faired better outside the org. I hope that your husband cares more about you than he does his JW reputation. Mine cared more about his than he did me. Now I'm happily divorced from him and he is a bitter, nasty, unhappy inactive JW man. Scroll up and read my post about the JW Stepford Wife system. It doesn't promote happy sisters or marriages. Heck, it doesn't even promote happy men.
Heather