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A Believer

Sheperdless I believe when it says in the name it doesn't mean the holy spirit is a person. It's a form of speech. Some scriptures say in the name of the law...does this mean that the law is a person?

A Believer

Heartsafire they may go door to door. But do they make it a global work and do it all over? And is it the truth?

baker

https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODStudio/pub-jwban_201509_1_VIDEO I see you enjoy watching jw.org, here is one that will help explain 1914 to you as currently taught by David splain, from governing body. Compare it to what was taught even 22 years ago and critically think yourself, is there truth in either or both.

A Believer

Smiddy the scripture does say his name was exalted, but no where does it say over jehovah. When Jehovah gave him the kingdom he will rule over the angels and people. But he is only to rule for a certain amount of time before he hands it back over.

Its 12am so I won't look for the scripture that says so right now I got to get in bed.

Witness 007

Full agree that the Trinity is lies but Witnesses are in the guiness book of records as the most false prophecies in modern history....an embarrassing legacy of shame.

schnell

Do you believe the two witness rule should apply to child molestation, believer?

shepherdless

Sheperdless I believe when it says in the name it doesn't mean the holy spirit is a person. It's a form of speech. Some scriptures say in the name of the law...does this mean that the law is a person?

Well the NWT says (Matt 24:19):

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit"

No mention of "the law". Is the NWT translation wrong?

Also, you might have heard a phrase in this religion "sinning against the spirit", as being different from (and more serious than) sinning against Jehovah. What is your interpretation of that?

David_Jay

"The only ones today who do what the Bible says is Jehovah's Witnesses."

This may be true, and at the same time it can be a very bad thing. The Bible says some people will make grave errors. Are you one of these? At Luke 21:8 Jesus said:

"Beware that you are not lead astray, for many will come in my name and say, 'I am he!' and 'The time is near!' Do not go after them."

The footnote to this verse in the NRSV says that "I am he" is literally "I am" and scholars point out this can be a reference to the Divine Name, making the verse read: "Many will come in my name, uttering the Divine Name, saying 'The time is near!' Do not go after them."

What religion fulfills this? Who goes about "uttering the Divine Name"? Who else but Jehovah's Witnesses are going about telling people that "the time is near"?

Even if the footnote reading is ignored, what did Jesus say we should do when we encounter people who tell us "the time is near"? Christ's answer: "Do not go after them." Are you obeying this or ignoring this?

Jehovah's Witnesses say world events like wars and earthquakes and the like are signs that the end is soon to come. But Jesus taught the opposite:

"When you hear of wars and insurrections, do not be terrified; for these things must take place first, but the end will not follow immediately." --Luke 21:9.

Notice, "the end will NOT follow immediately" as the Witnesses have been saying it would. As Jesus states as recorded in Matthew 24:6, "you will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet." These are not signs of the end times says Jesus. And again, should his followers hear people saying " the time is near, " they are instructed by Jesus not to follow those who claim such things.

What about how the Witnesses claim that we have been living in the time of Jesus' invisible presence since 1914? Jesus warned: "If they say that the Son of Man is present but far away in the desert somewhere, there is no reason to go with them. If they say: 'He can't be seen because he is in an inner room closed away from sight,' don't fall for that. For just as you can see the flash from a lightning bolt in the East even If you are facing West, it will be no different once the Son of Man is here. If there really is a dead body somewhere, the presence of vultures will prove it. " --Matthew 24:26-28.

Are you disobeying Jesus by following those who tell you the end is near? Do you believe that Jesus has returned, but can't be seen because he is out of sight as if he were away in the wilderness of in some inner room?

Do that if you want to. Follow those Jesus said NOT to follow. It will only prove you will make up any excuse of believe anything except the words of Jesus: "Do not go after them."

jwleaks

Welcome to the forum A Believer. You said

I have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion. I've learned the only ones who today do what the Bible says to is JW. Thier the only who, as the bible puts it, preaches the good news in all the land

You stated that only the religion of jehovah's witnesses preach the good news. You are completely incorrect. The religion does not preach anything. A number of years back both the religion and the Watchtower corporation stepped back from and distanced themselves from the preaching work. They did this to deny legal liability.

According to the current doctrinal teachings of Geoff, Sam, Mark, Gerrit, Stephen, Tony, and David, aka the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, the preaching work is carried out by anyone and everyone who reads the bible and goes out and preaches. Any preaching work carried out by adherents of the faith of jehovah's witnesses has been described by these seven men as one's "own personal ministry," i.e. not sanctioned by the church.

Ironically this makes the church of jehovah's witnesses not a follower of Christ's commands and therefore not a follower of the Bible when it comes to preaching the gospel.

JRK

A Believer has now got 3 hours of time in.

JK

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