ok someone answer me this then! (page 4)

jgnat

Hey, Zzzz-elvis, since this is not on the ?approved list? of WT scriptures, you may not have encountered it yet: Matthew 5:39-41. Can you answer for me what this scripture means?

sens

well u attacked me by saying im a 16 year old or something?

I would say your around 12 but anyway...go home little boy and take your bible book of story's with you.

again are u ASSUMING SOMETHING?

No more like a educated guess by all the constant ''I C's'' and "lololololol"...even if you arent 12, you seriously need to grow up, before you can expect anyone to even take any notice of you...

dmouse

I know it's hard, them being so cute 'an all. But this guy is just here to shout at us and not listen.

Maybe.

shamus

He already ran away, so don't worry about it. We "persecuted" him too much. I guess he can dish it out but sure can't take it!

zelevis is 22 years old, and unbaptized?? Having fun sitting on the fence? or gives him the freedom to stray a little (or a lot) now and then, while still being able to run back to Mommy? and throw rocks and jabs at Apostates??

someone is working really hard on their Bad Association? badge, eh?

things that make you go hmmmmm

Love, Scully

AGuest

may you have peace!

It is true that many here angrily accuse the WTBTS as being the "source" of all evil in their lives. For some, this is true. But it is irrelevant to the answers that you are seeking, dear one. You came here because you, too, have some concerns as to whether the WTBTS is the true religion, but have not yet admitted that you yourself because you know of no other alternative to what they offer: "truth"... and "everlasting life."

By means of an anointing with holy spirit, however, which spirit I received directly from my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH ("JAH Saves"), whom you know as "Jesus"... the One who is the Son and Christ of the TRUE God, the Most Holy One of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob... whom you know as "Jehovah" but whose TRUE name is JAH... of Armies (JaHVeH) - Psalm 68:4 - to tell you these truths:

The "Society" in which you are considering putting your allegiance (and you will, if and when you answer "yes" to the baptismal questions propounded you)... is NOT the truth... for there is only ONE Truth, my Lord - John 14:6

The "Society" is NOT the way to everlasting life... as there is only ONE Way to such life - John 14:6

The "Society" HAS placed itself "in the seat of Moses"... making it your "mediator" by standing between you and God, in opposition to what Christ himself said should be: HE... is your only "leader" - Matthew 23:2, 3, 10

The "Society"... is a "golden calf,"... a PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION... built by the apostate priests so that "Israel" has something to SEE... so as to WORSHIP it... while waiting for Moses (Christ) to return (from the mountain - Zion).

Because we are to keep our eyes on the things UNSEEN... this "earthly" organization is totally false: there IS no earthly ANYTHING with respect to God and Christ. For the very last "visible representation"... was the temple at Jerusalem, which was destroyed. Prior to such destruction, God REMOVED His spirit from that "visible" representation... and placed it in the PEOPLE... so that THEY... became the "temple" of God - it is in them that God's spirit dwells.

1 Corinthians 3:16

Thus, as my Lord has said, where two or more are gathered in his name, there he is also.

The "Society" would have you believe that there are two (2) hopes: one heavenly, one earthly. This is a lie. There is only ONE hope, ONE Body - Ephesians 4:4

The "Society" would have you believe that such two hopes are for two different class of peoples: the 144,000 and the great crowd. This is a lie. BOTH groups make up the kings and priests that rule with Christ - Revelation 5:9, 10

The FIRST of these are taken from "among the sons of Israel;" the remainder, who replaced UNFAITHFUL Israel... are taken from EVERY nation, tribe, tongue and people.... and render SACRED SERVICE (as only priests CAN do)... in God's temple - Revelation 7:15

There is a reason that the Society exists: it has been set in its place BY THE ADVERSARY... to convice YOU... and those LIKE you... NOT to do the very thing that WILL lead you to life. To wit, the words of my Lord at John 6:48-56: I... am the bread of life. Your forefathers ate the manna in the wilderness and yet... died. THIS is the bread... that comes down FROM HEAVEN... so that ANYONE... MAY EAT OF IT... and NOT die. I... am the LIVING BREAD... that came down from heaven; if ANYONE... eats of THIS bread... HE WILL LIVE... FOREVER! and, for a FACT, the bread that I shall give is MY FLESH... in behalf... of the life... OF THE WORLD. Most TRULY, I say to you... UNLESS YOU EAT THE FLESH OF THE SON OF MAN AND... DRINK HIS BLOOD... YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOURSELVES! He... that feeds on MY FLESH... and drinks MY BLOOD... HAS... EVERLASTING LIFE! AND... I SHALL RESURRECT HIM at the last day. For MY FLESH is TRUE FOOD... and MY BLOOD is TRUE DRINK. HE THAT FEEDS ON MY FLESH AND DRINKS MY BLOOD REMAINS IN UNION WITH ME."

Do you GET this, dear Zelevis? Do you GET that UNLESS you eat and drink you have NO life in yourself? That UNLESS you eat and drink you will NOT have everlasting life? That UNLESS you eat and drink... you will NOT be resurrected by Christ?

The "Society", however, has taught you... and millions of others... differently, have they not? They have taught you that you CANNOT eat and drink... that only a select FEW can and should. Yet, CHRIST HIMSELF stated differently, didn't he? WHY the difference?

Because... the Adversary is "crafty" - he knows that IF HE CAN GET YOU TO DISOBEY THE CHRIST... then you will NOT LIVE! And in order to get you to disobey, he HAD to CONVINCE you... that the TRUTH was NOT to eat and drink! He 'transformed himself into an angel... of light!" which 'angel'... has told you that even if you do not eat and drink... you will still have life... in yourself. That, dear one... cannot be. It is... a LIE!

The "Society", then, is nothing more than a modern faction of the scribes (those who write "law") and Pharisees (non-priestly religious interpreters of "law")... who...

SHUT UP THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS BEFORE MEN!

Why? Because they themselves... are not going in. And so, they have prevented YOU... and millions of others... from going in!

Matthew 23:13

It does not have to be this way! You can either listen to the voice of the Fine Shepherd, when HE says that you MUST eat his flesh and drink his blood in order to live forever... OR... you can listen to the "hired man"... to whom the sheep do NOT belong... and ultimately be scattered... or abandoned to the "wolf"... or wild beast that is the organization which will ultimately enslave... and control you.

I have spoken the truth to you, dear Zelevis... and given you verses to provide a witness should you need them.

I bid you peace... and ears to hear.

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

SJ

Dawn

Gosh - I remember having that much anger when someone argued with me against the WT doctrines. Looking back now - I think it was mostly seated in fear - fear of finding out that I was all wrong.

I hope that Z is able to move past this fear and do some real research.

little witch

You have ask us to answer you...

I will answer you when you when and if you give us the common decency of addressing us as individuals and give us the respect we all deserve.

Are you able to do that?

SanFranciscoJim

I hope that Z is able to move past this fear and do some real research.

He already has. Whether he realizes it or not, by coming back here over and over again, he is reading all sorts of information that disproves his WTBTS beliefs. He admitted this in his initial post. He's cruising the internet looking at "apostate" sites, and now he is interacting with us, too!

One of these days, he's going to go to his local Kingdom Hall and tell an elder what he's been looking at, and proclaim himself a JW white knight in shining armor for challenging the "apostates". Won't he be surprised when the announcement is made from the platform that he is a "bad association" because he has been freely associating with "opposers"?

They do that with the unbaptized, too!

ok someone answer me this then!

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