God is Real in Principle

by looter 251 Replies latest jw friends

  • Landy
    Landy
    You did not really respond. You think I am using insulting language and you don't think Cofty is. Look at everything him and Outlaw have said on this thread.
    If you have a new phrase you want me to use, I will cut and paste it if I have time before the edit goes off. If you don't write me a new phrase to use then I will leave it as it is. I am happy to edit or retract anything posters find inappropriate if I think they are being reasonable.
    Oops out of time to edit. So I will just apologise for being insulting. I am sorry for insulting Cofty.

    In all the years I've been using Internet forums I've never come across anyone quite like you.

  • Landy
    Landy
    To protect and serve
  • looter
    looter

    What did I just read? OrphanCrow, how dare you believe that what Kate said is insulting. It is absolutely in no way insulting. She just said that he is unable to understand my views because he has his own. Period. If you read this entire topic, it's pretty clear that this is the case. Just because it's true doesn't mean she was being conceited.

    She even called him very intelligent because he evidently is. However, every time I attempted to explain he completely misinterprets it and asks me another question based on his misinterpretation. That's not my fault if he just can't possibly grasp in mind it. It's okay if he disagrees but in this case he doesn't even understand.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    looter: OrphanCrow, how dare you believe...

    Looter, I can dare to believe whatever I want. Seriously

    I have no limits to what I can chose

    It is called freedom of mind

  • looter
    looter

    Exactly. But since when does calling someone intelligent equate with insulting them? All she did was point out one underlying issue with our conversation. Not disrespectful in any way at all. It pains me that you think that.

  • sparky1
    sparky1

    "That's not my fault if he just can't possibly grasp in mind it." - looter

    Actually, I haven't got the slightest idea what point you are trying to make in your op either.

  • looter
    looter

    That's not my fault either, sparky1.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    looter: It pains me that you think that...

    Well, to add to your pain, I have to agree with many of the other posters here. I think that your OP is a word salad that lacks coherence. I think that this reflects the level of frustration you are experiencing in trying to reconcile irrationality with the rational world

  • looter
    looter

    It's not that I'm "trying to reconcile irrationality with the rational world". That what you call "irrationality" is just another way individuals are able to be practical and problem solvers. Obviously when it involves hurting and extreme actions it could be called irrationality. But when an atheist or just anyone who isn't religious does equivalent things, that can be called unreasonable as well. Besides, believers think not believing is irrational so it really is just a different mode of thinking.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    looter: Besides, believers think not believing is irrational so it really is just a different mode of thinking.

    Yes. It certainly is a different way of thinking.

    The difference between rationality and irrationality is that rationality does not require belief.

    Think of it this way - it is like going to watch a movie. Our rational minds know that the images, music, plot, characters on the screen are fictitious. In order to engage in the experience of being entertained by the movie, the spectators have to suspend their disbelief.

    That is what makes a rational person into a "believer" - the suspension of their disbelief. And that is a conscious choice

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