Ok OC yes I agree with you. Child porn is child abuse. Do you feel that a teen couple in NC should be considered child predators because they sent each other naked selfies? Or is there some gray areas? We may not agree on the exact gray areas.
ARC - Case Study 54 - All Exhibits have been released
by jwleaks 347 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
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OrphanCrow
Richard, I don't care about the grey areas.
I care about all those babies and children being raped to produce child pornography. I care that the WT is telling the JWs that viewing images of that nature is not considered child abuse.
That's all. That is an important enough issue to speak about without falling into your grey zone.
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Richard Oliver
That is very good orphan crow that you care about all the babies and children being raped on camera.and I don't think any reasonable person would disagree. So do you feel that they should be treated legally or by a moral code? What can any NGO do to a criminal vs what a government can do?
I understand you don't care about the grey areas. But you also feel that for instance a young couple should not be df'ed for having premarital sex, that would ruin their life. So my question stands. Should that young couple be arrested tried and convicted and put on a sex offender registry for sending naked pictures to each other. And that is not a hypothetical that is a real issue that happens all the time.
There is a case of a famous gay porn actor who lied about his age when he started to perform, he was either 16 or 17. It later came out that he was under age and the producer was charged with trafficking in child porn, there was questions of if someone kept one of those films even by accident would they be guilty of possession of child porn.
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Fisherman
Why does that matter?
Because it does matter .
Is not the law based on our moral codes?
Who's moral code? Wt teaches homosexuality, abortions and pornography minors having sex, is wrong -yet perfectly legal with some exceptions.
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Richard Oliver
And OX either you or outlaw kept on saying I was giving a straw man argument. That is exactly what you are doing because you give an argument that no one can disagree with.
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OrphanCrow
RO: ...you give an argument that no one can disagree with
Au contraire, Richard.
The WT disagrees with it.
*reminder, Richard...don't slam it shut
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Fisherman
So do you feel that they should be treated legally or by a moral code?
ahh, there's the rub!
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Fisherman
It is an outrage that children should be raped on camera! I am also outraged about other moral conduct too.
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Richard Oliver
OC so you are contending that watchtower has no problem what so ever of a 10 year old being raped on camera.
You also miss the point as great teacher points out she is a mandatory reporting like most teachers in the US and other places. Mandatory reporting laws on child abuse would also include reporting on child porn. As you pointed out child porn is child abuse. So the rules that apply to child abuse would apply to child porn. As watchtower policy as you have been reading it doesn't matter if the abuse occured to a jw child or not. If elders would be obligated to report child abuse they would also be obligated to report that. In fact many states don't have a seperate statute on who is to report child porn but it is rolled into the mandatory reporting statutes of child abuse.
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Vidiot
LoveUnitHateExams - "...the org doesn't consider viewing child porn as a form of child abuse..."
And yet both can get you registered as a sex offender.