A question for those who do NOT live in the United States

by logansrun 78 Replies latest jw friends

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    I've heard it over and over again in conversations about the US -- "What other country would you rather live in?"

    I have NEVER used that phrase exactly -- but have used similar phrases -- I am always careful to include places like Britain and other European countries, Australia , Canada etc. The good thing about these places is there are freedoms and protections and they are democracies. I would rather live in USA/ Britain/other European countries, Australia , Canada etc. than say - -Afghanisatn, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Egypt etc. But to answer the question -- the good ole USA does not have a monopoly on being a wonderful place to live -there are others

  • imallgrowedup
    imallgrowedup

    I agree with Expatbrit. His/her insights make a lot of sense.

    Most immigrants I've met (including myself) go through a bit of this to one extent or another because of the magnitude of starting a new life from scratch.

    I find this to be particularly true, even when moving from one place to another within the US - and/or even when moving from one place to another within a particular state. In California alone, I've lived in the SF Bay Area, the Sacramento area, Orange County (LA), the CA Central Valley, the Monterey Bay Area, and the Lake Tahoe region. Even within one state, every single place was different - most notably to me, in culture and attitudes. Without naming which area I am referring to, I'll just say that one particular region had some of the snootiest and "surface" people I've ever met in my life and I was miserable there. In other regions, my day-to-day life was very much influenced by the natural surroundings. When I look back on one place in particular, I still smile - it was the most fun place I've ever lived in my life and is where I met and married my husband. Yet another place is where I call "home" and wouldn't want to leave for anything - even with some of the kooky laws which drive up the prices of everything in this state.

    That said, I've also lived in Missouri, which is as different from CA as you can get. The weather is completely different, the economy is better (at least when I was there), and the people are wonderful. I never could get used to some of the laws they had there, and the infrastructure didn't make much sense to me, only because it is an older state which had to get very creative in order to update. And the pace - even in the large suburban area of Kansas City, was so much more relaxed than in CA.

    In other words, I agree with the following statement also made by Expatbrit:

    If you are unhappy living in the US/Canada/Uk etc, you are unlikely to be happier somewhere else.

    It's all about attitude, and your own ability to adapt.

    Someone once told me "You can't change everyone's ideas to fit yours, you can only change the way you react to someone else's ideas." I believe this to be true. We CHOOSE the way we look at where we live or don't live - whether we are looking at the weather, economy, people who live there, natural surroundings or political climate. It's what we do with the way we feel about it that makes the difference. If we are unhappy about where we live, we have choices. We can choose to move somewhere else where we *might* be happier; we can choose to stay where we are and piss and moan and engage in heated political debates which only serve to further polarize political ideas; or we can choose to accept that no matter how persuasive we think we are, we're never going to be able to get everyone to agree with our particular ideas. With that in mind, we can also choose to use the energy we would normally use to piss and moan, and channel it towards positive ACTIONS and DEEDS which can bring about the change we desire. Trading nasty words is NOT going to solve anything; but acting on the changes we would like to see can much more peacefully affect the outcome we desire.

    My 2,

    growedup

  • Phantom Stranger
    Phantom Stranger

    "You can't change everyone's ideas to fit yours, you can only change the way you react to someone else's ideas."

    That is a wonderful way to put it. Thanks for that gift.

  • imallgrowedup
    imallgrowedup

    Phantom -

    Thanks!

    *growedup steps off soapbox and sticks it back under the bed*

    :-)

  • Country_Woman
    Country_Woman

    " And what do you think of America in general -- it's history, culture and politics?"

    The history and culture (of not native America) is short
    The politics are "self righteous"

    Most Americans are friendly - so I like them.
    I have never visited the country - but from what I have seen on TV it is "great".

    Further: I only want to live in the Netherlands......

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Let me make something very clear:

    I am, in my little life in suburban Chicago, quite content. But, to be content in one's immediate surroundings is not intellectually or morally satisfying to those who wish to think beyond their immediate surroundings. Especially is this so when the powers that are responsible for your relative contentment are also responsible for the deprivation and, in some cases, murder of others. Not a nice feeling at all.

    B.

  • dottie
    dottie

    I moved to the US from Canada in May, and so far it has been great. The only thing that bugs the hell outta me is when I'm in a restaurant or store and I ask a clerk or server where the "washroom" is I get a bewildered look and then the reply: "Do you mean the 'restroom'"??? This has happened to me at least 5 times so the last time I just said "Yea the room where the toilet is" I find that down here not alot of people care about hockey as much as football (which is fine...I'm just glad that hockey is on many times during the week instead of just on Sundays ) I find that Americans are much more patriotic, which is displayed by the amount of flags that are flying (the first thing that I noticed when driving away from the airport) And yes there is some ignorance of Canada that I've come across, but as a whole I like it here and the people I've met have been really nice and friendly (aside from the rude rednecks and white trash at Wal-mart, but hey there were those in Edmonton, Canada too )

    One suggestion for the Americans : HOCKEY HOCKEY HOCKEY!!!!! Know it and Learn it !!!!! (teehee j/k )

  • WildHorses
    WildHorses
    You want to see true American IQ, watch the Tonight Show (usually on Tuesdays), when Jay does his Jaywalking segment, that is the true american IQ.

    Run, it is a comedy show, they want laughs so they only tape those who give dumb answers, but "most" americans are intelligent.

    and lets not go into trying to convert degrees to metric, or kilometres to m.p.h, god like talking to a two year old.

    No lie I had a guy who got a ticket, he was doing 100 mph on the highway, he didn't know what kilometres meant.

    And if I have to explain one more time to someone what a one dollar coin is, I may shoot somebody or myself.

    We do not use the metric system here so how are we to know? I do know that a Kilometer is about 3 miles. I know this because I ask questions when I visit other countries who use this instead of miles. I'm glad they were nice enough to take the time to explain it to me instead of implying that I was a "stupid American"

    but seriously, at one time yes, the US was the place to go for oppourtunity and a good life, but that has long disappeared, the greed and selfishness of people is unreal, i work in a hotel, and get alot of US people, and honestly, americans haven't got a clue about the rest of the planet, the stupid questions I must answer OVER AND OVER again is ridiculous.

    Why do you lump us all into one group? I am neither greedy nor selfish. I may not know alot about the "rest of the planet". But when I visit other countries, I try to learn their customs and as the old addage goes "when in Rome do as the Romas do".

    I know one thing though. If I ran into someone like you in a country I happen to visit. I wouldn't judge everyone in that country by how you acted towards me. That would be unfair of me.

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    Wildhorses:

    I do know that a Kilometer is about 3 miles. I know this because I ask questions when I visit other countries who use this instead of miles. I'm glad they were nice enough to take the time to explain it to me instead of implying that I was a "stupid American"

    I'm afraid that whoever you asked this question of was a real bastard.

    Expatbrit

  • WildHorses
    WildHorses

    You mean he told me wrong? Damn Mexican!

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