Different type of bible study

by freedom96 10 Replies latest jw friends

  • freedom96
    freedom96

    Last night I went with a friend to a bible study promoted by his non-denominational church.

    From time to time, some of the church will get together for a few weeks in someones home and have a study. This one was six weeks long, and certainly was not manditory.

    I entered the home, and instantly had flashbacks to book studies. Chairs were set out, but there was joy in the air. People laughing, having fun. No one in suits or dresses. Some in jeans, some in shorts. I met some men in the living room, all instantly likeable. Smells of food was coming from the rear of the house, in the kitchen. After a few minutes, we went to the back, and a complete dinner was waiting for everyone.

    Small talk continued in the back, and again, everyone friendly.

    Finished eating, and went back to the living room. We all sat down, some even on the floor, relaxing. The host then started with a prayer, and we looked briefly at a study book. Much like something from school.

    We are used to one conductor, a reader, and then we would answer the questions from the paragraph. Here, everyones input was welcomed. People just talked, without raising hands. The study article asked for personal experiences on the subject, most gave some example of what happened to them. Very light, and enjoyable.

    After about 15 minutes, then we watched a video that matched to study article. More comments followed, and then finished with the host asking if there were any prayer requests. There was a couple, including me, even though it was aqward, I asked that they pray for my son who was involved in this cult.

    A few people, including women, said a closing prayer, and even included my son. Turns out, that one couple there that prayed for my son, was actually the pastor of the whole church! I was suprised that he was not running the show. But my friend explained that it wasn't all about that. This was the hosts home, and he did it. No one was trying to out do the other.

    Of the 5 men there, 3 of them, including the pastor, wore ...gasp... goatees. One guy was a Harley Davidson long haired guy who actually runs the music department at church. They all were genuine in their attitude towards one another, and in their love for God and Christ. Didn't matter how you looked or dressed. Non judgemental.

    It was really refreshing when compared to the Kingdom Hall.

    Get this. You know how the WTS does not want you to be friends with anyone "worldly." Well, this video taught that we should have friends that are non Christians. They looked at it at a great way to bring others to Christ. Never was it mentioned that you might fall into the sins of the friend. Total different take from what the WTS teaches.

    Anyways, it was a neat experience, and like I said above, very refreshing.

  • Celia
    Celia

    This is exactly why the JW leadership doesn't want the rank and file to have friends from other religions, and doesn't want them to go anywhere close to another Christian church. . . . they may like it there much better than at the Kingdom Hall, and for good reasons.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Yeah, freedom. That is the kind of bible study I am used to. I try not to push my lifestyle too hard here, because I understand that many are sick of organized faith of any kind.

    Have you seen any posters advertising the Alpha program? You will see these posters in front of many different denominations. I think it is a fairly nonthreatening way to present Christianity to folks.

    From their site:

    The Alpha Course consists of a series of talks addressing key issues relating to the Christian faith.

    Supper There is a light meal together at the beginning of each session which gives people a chance to get to know each other.

    Talk After each talk we divide into small groups to discuss the topic of the evening, ask questions and express opinions.

    Coffee & Small groups Listen, learn, discuss and discover. And ask anything. Alpha is a place where no question is too simple or too hostile.

    http://alphacourse.org/
  • anglise
    anglise

    If I could find a group that was like this one I might be tempted to investigate BUT

    Sorry to be cynical but would the free style remain once you where committed?

    What happens if you disagree about a fundamental teaching or belief of the group?

    How would you be viewed if you didnt want to go to every meeting every week for ever and ever?

    I didnt realise the Alpha course where international. I have seen their posters up locally here in the UK.

    Anglise

    (Of the been hurt/fooled too many times class)

  • freedom96
    freedom96

    One reason I have been drawn to non-denominational type churches is the non judgmental attitudes they seem to have. The basic belief is accepting Jesus as your savior, and the rest is up to everyone to draw their own conclusions.

    If you disagree with something or someone, you will not be kicked out, or shunned. Instead, people actually talk about it. If you don't want to go to church on a certain day, then don't. They don't ask for time cards, don't make you go out in service, or go to 5 meetings a week. That is one reason why when you look around, people look like they are actually enjoying it.

  • starfish422
    starfish422

    Freedom96, I am not a Christian and wouldn't attend a "bible study" as such; however, I am so glad that you had a positive experience in a warm atmosphere! Good for you for taking a chance and stepping outside your "comfort zone".

    I do have friends I get together with and discuss philosophy, religion, politics, etc. and it is so stimulating and refreshing. Many of us have different views but it's so great to discuss them without anyone worrying about others trying to convert people.

    Thanks so much for sharing your encouraging experience. I hope you return to the study!

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Anglise, I understand what you are saying. Once burned, twice shy. The difference between a high-control group and the Christians I hang out with is, there are very few core doctrines that define the group. With the JW's, all doctrines must be followed with equal enthusiasm, or you are out. An orthodox definition of Christianity is, "Follower of Christ". If an organization or person claims to be Christian, but fails to acknowledge Jesus or follow his teachings (foremost which is love God and love your neighbour as yourself), then they shouldn't be calling themselves Christian.

    The second major difference is the consequences of disagreement. A church that is unafraid of questioners is a healthy church. Few people are kicked out, unless it is for gross sin. Most churches are heavy on forgiveness and redemption, light on judgement. Judgement is left to God.

  • Billygoat
    Billygoat

    I'm so glad you had such a positive experience! What is so interesting is that there are more of those than BAD experiences out there. Yes, there are churches that are controlling and are out for your money, but there are equally as many that are truly about reading the Bible and learning to get closer to Jesus and God. I hope you go back too! It's a Bible Study like that that has fulfilled my life the last several years. God is MY god and my relationship with Him is MINE. Nobody dictates it and the other members are church still love me for it. THAT is what Christianity is about!

  • barry
    barry

    Gday Anglise, I can understand youre concerns but I have been to most churches and bible studies they hold are all after a similar pattern to the one described here.

    I often dissagree with church doctrines at the SDAs and I am a member there. To make it clear what I want to say I simply start by saying "This is not what the church teaches" "my beleif about this subject is". ..........

    As long as youre approach is courtious kind and with christian love there is no problem. And if you are a cool guy like me it helps too.

    If you are a trouble maker and try to take over meetings be disruptive rude and unchristian toward people you may have problems as you would in any club group or church. Barry

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost
    I have been to most churches and bible studies they hold are all after a similar pattern to the one described here
    If you disagree with something or someone, you will not be kicked out, or shunned. Instead, people actually talk about it. If you don't want to go to church on a certain day, then don't. They don't ask for time cards, don't make you go out in service, or go to 5 meetings a week. That is one reason why when you look around, people look like they are actually enjoying it.

    Me too! How different from what was expected of us (and by us?) at the dub Book study groups.

    Now, I have a question: Which one more closely resembles the first-century christian gatherings?

    Food for thought for those still unsure.

    Cheers, OzzieCheers 2

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