NotFormer - “…Unless the CSA is established in the mouth of two or three witnesses, the elder doesn't KNOW anything, according to Ted Jaracz’s weaponization of that particular aspect of Mosaic Law.”
Fixed that for you.
IICSA Final Report
by Phizzy 18 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
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Vidiot
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jhine
The sanctity of the confessional is , obviously, for people who CONFESS their sins. However if a child goes to a priest to report that they have been abused then that isn't a confession.
Surely then they should report this.
Jan from Tam
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NotFormer
"Fixed that for you"
I thought of further clarifying that myself, but I'm sick of writing that bastard's name. When it comes to damage done to the organisation and its people, that bloke must be up there with da Judge.
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Phizzy
"This will put the government on collision course with the Catholic Church who claim the “ sanctity of the confessional “ B.B.
"The sanctity of the confessional is , obviously, for people who CONFESS their sins. However if a child goes to a priest to report that they have been abused then that isn't a confession."
In U.K Law if a Priest uncovers a crime he is already duty bound to report it, the fact he learned it in the Confessional is irrelevant. This has been the case since the Reformation.
The loophole that will be closed is that a priest can claim he has not uncovered a crime where what is confessed does not at present constitute one, in HIS opinion, the same applies to an Elder, they will have to report first, and it is up to the authorities to say if a crime has been committed.
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jhine
Thank you for that clarification Phizzy
Jan from Tam
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Vidiot
NotFormer - “…When it comes to damage done to the organisation and its people, that bloke must be cellmates in Hell with da Judge.”
Fixed that for you. 😏
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NotFormer
"Fixed that for you. 😏"
Admittedly, I'm probably being a bit too circumspect in my statements 🤔 That's the second statement of mine you've had to fix! 😳
Back to the subject, did the British parliament really just vote against a full inquiry into this whole grooming gang issue? 😲
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Phizzy
No, they had the second Reading of a Bill to safeguard children of School Age, The Children's Wellbeing and Schools Bill. Which was passed with a huge majority, despite every Right Wing Conservative that could be mustered Voting against the Bill.
The Cons. had put forward to be Voted on first, what is called a Reasoned Amendment, this would have scuppered the Bill, the amendment, as part of it,, called for a new inquiry into sex abuse gangs.
This was doing Elon Musk's bidding, the amendment was Voted down, such an Inquiry would take years, but the Government have not totally ruled out holding one, they are consulting with survivor/victim groups.
To scupper this Bill would have meant that the safeguarding of School Age kids was not in place for a long time.
The Conservatives showed how low they have sunk, no matter how evil his urgings, they will do Musk's bidding. Shocking.
The Government has said the first of the IICSA Report suggested actions, Mandatory Reporting, will be in Law soon, the others will follow. No doubt the Tories will Vote against those soon if Musk tells them to.
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jhine
So from what l can find Tories wanted an ammendment to the bill to include an enquiry into the grooming gang scandal and Labour voted against that
I can't find anything about Tories voting against the Bill . Where does that come from?
Jan from Tam