by Godlyman 349 Replies latest watchtower bible
Yes the WT religion is F'ed up!
There is no evidence that the governing body of the WT/JW religion was chosen by Jehovah/Yahweh God. There is also no evidence that they are "the faithful and discreet slave". There is evidence that governing body members of the WT/JW religion were not chosen by God. People who are at least somewhat rational should cease being active in the religion, as soon as possible!
Jeffro
And the big ‘reveal’ once he got around to it;
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Took you a long time to realize it was in fact a prophecy which scholar had to tell you.
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Well that was worth the wait. 😂 Pathetic. Despite the moronic attempt to say it was all just in the future, it is not at all consistent with the directly stated order of events: Babylon’s 70 years end, and then attention is given to the Jews’ return.
Still waiting for a valid answer. If 70 years ended when the Jews arrived in Jerusalem, in what way was attention subsequently given to their return?
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The attention given to the Exiles was their release from Exile by an official decree, returning home on time thus fulfilling the 70 years as prophesied and described in detail by the Chronicler.
Just use your plain common sense and just read the text that is if you believe the text or even the whole Bible for you have already discarded Daniel to the trash can.
scholar JW
And what is really crazy is this:
BruceX: You are wrong, it is not crazy, it is criminal, convicting (for all purposes executing her) on evidence that later is proved wrong in law.
Question scripturally, to those perpetuating this, including the lower management aka elders:
"How will you escape the judgement of gehennah?"
F&DS my foot.
waton:
BruceX: You are wrong, it is not crazy, it is criminal, convicting (for all purposes executing her) on evidence that later is proved wrong in law.
I have to agree with you.
'scholar':
any chronology for the Return must fully account for these factors and shows that to cram all of these in one year - 538 BCE is impossible
Gotta love JW 'logic'...
'scholar':
The attention given to the Exiles was their release from Exile by an official decree, returning home on time thus fulfilling the 70 years as prophesied and described in detail by the Chronicler.
Entirely invalid response (and there actually wasn't any special decree just for the Jews, Cyrus just had a general policy of allowing conquered people to follow their religious beliefs in order to quell civil unrest). Giving attention to their return before the end of the 70 years directly contradicts the direct statement at Jeremiah 29:10. But thanks for confirming once again that JWs don't really care what the Bible actually says when it disagrees with Watch Tower Society doctrine.
Just use your plain common sense and just read the text that is if you believe the text
It is not necessary to believe a text is true in order to assess what it says. However, the descriptions in Jeremiah of 70 years as a period during which the nations were subject to Babylon does nicely fit the period from the fall of Assyria in 609 BCE until the fall of Babylon in 539 BCE. And Jeremiah's further description of attention being given to the Jews' return after Babylon's 70 years also nicely fits the fact that some of the Jews returned to Jerusalem in 538 BCE after Persia began to reign and began work on the temple foundations in Cyrus' second year, 537 BCE.
or even the whole Bible for you have already discarded Daniel to the trash can.
Fallacy of composition.
Jeffro
otta love JW 'logic'...
But some people making a 4-month trip in a 6-month period? 'Impossible' says the non-scholar.
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JW logic which is Bible-based is better than your logic.
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The 40 years in relation to Egypt is in the Bible so it must have happened.
The 20 yr Babylonian Gap exists because of the difference between NB History and Bible History in relation to the Late Judean Period.
Your co-called compression of events pertaining to the Return in 538 is implausible.
scholar JW
Jeffro
Entirely invalid response (and there actually wasn't any special decree just for the Jews, Cyrus just had a general policy of allowing conquered people to follow their religious beliefs in order to quell civil unrest). Giving attention to their return before the end of the 70 years directly contradicts the direct statement at Jeremiah 29:10. But thanks for confirming once again that JWs don't really care what the Bible actually says when it disagrees with Watch Tower Society doctrine.
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There was such an instrument as the Decree of Cyrus. The direct statement or prophecy at Jeremiah 29:10 validates the date of the Return at the behest of Cyrus' Decree and fulfilling the prophetic word of Jeremiah that the 70 years marked the end of the Exile at the Reurn in 537 BCe. Everything fits together like a jigsaw puzzle.
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It is not necessary to believe a text is true in order to assess what it says. However, the descriptions in Jeremiah of 70 years as a period during which the nations were subject to Babylon does nicely fit the period from the fall of Assyria in 609 BCE until the fall of Babylon in 539 BCE. And Jeremiah's further description of attention being given to the Jews' return after Babylon's 70 years also nicely fits the fact that some of the Jews returned to Jerusalem in 538 BCE after Persia began to reign and began work on the temple foundations in Cyrus' second year, 537 BCE.
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Utter nonsense for credibility is everything for why would a person trust another's disbelief or scepticism for only a fool does that. Your thesis that the Fall of Assyria in 609 BCE? marks 70 year period and ending in 539 BCE with the Fall of Babylon is correct but that has nothing to do with Jeremiah's 70 years which commenced with the destruction of Jerusalem in 607 BCE and ended with the Return of the Jews in 537 BCE consistent with the fact that this 70 year was of servitude-desolation and Exile as detailed and foretold in the biblical record.
scholar JW
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ex ile? drawn out straw men, snow men arguments, lacking juicy relevance, lifeless, not nourishing. not food in due season, not seasoned with salt. trying to divert attention form the possibly deadly food poisoning issue @ wtbts.
