I attended the meeting tonight.....

by silentlambs 76 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • silentlambs
    silentlambs

    i went to the meeting tonight to check out things in the local congregation. This spiritual paradise is showing a few cracks. When i arrived about ten minutes before the meeting started, i felt like a ghost. i move around but no one seems to know i am there. no one speaks or even looks at me anymore according to wt instructions. i have never in my life even sat before a judicial committee, yet it appears i have created a new qualification within the organization. the undf, you go to meetings yet you do not exist. a sidepoint-when i showed up for service about a month ago, i was assigned in my own car by myself with no territory. anyone ever heard of that one?

    back to the meeting, during the instruction talk i decide to go to the bathroom, as usual i am escorted by an attendant who follows me when i leave my seat. i wonder what they think i am going to do? the attendant pretends to just have a need to be close by and busy with other things. it is starting to tick me off. i decide to stand at the back for the questions to the instruction talk. i raise my hand for the first question, no one else does. the speaker waits and waits, finally, another hand goes up which he pounces on for relief. did i mention that part of the undf? i am told i am not on restrictions and can comment freely, but everyone who has a part on the meeting is instructed not to call on me. I like to raise my hand about 20 to 30 times when i attend, just to make a statement.
    everything goes pretty smooth till talk #4, the theme was "why we should always go to the elders when we sin" or words to that effect. it was given by a young lad of 22 who i sat on a judicial committee for, less than six months ago. he confessed to multiple acts of oral and regular sex with a local sister and not telling anyone for three years. we let him off with reproof, i was so jaded at that point i could not see much point to the judicial process. yet this guy gets up on the stage and proceeds to chastize the congregation for hiding sin? i could not stand to listen to it, so i went to the bathroom again, you guessed it, i had my escort. this time i decided to have some fun. after going to the bathroom i beat him out the door and just waited beside the door. he jumped out of his hide when he saw me standing there. he then pretended to go to inspect the bulletin board, so i escorted him. i just stood about one foot away and followed him around. he finally got the point and went back to his seat, i stood close by for a little while and then went back to my seat. next came the service meeting, a local needs parts that to this moment i cannot figure out what the local need was, something about the creation book. next came the magazine sales part. this part topped the entire night, why? when it came time for the demonstration the local child molester gave the sermon. this is the individual who lied about the multiple molestations of one child and may have molested as many as five children i personally know, this person was offering a "teaching" part on the service meeting. this was specifically stated as a no no in the letter we recieved from the society, yet there he was as big as life.

    does the wt protect pedophiles?

    Well locally our pedophile can comment at the meetings and currently has teaching parts on the service meeting. i on the other hand have none of these "priveledges" and for what? telling the truth and turning him in.

    after the meeting was over, the only person who spoke to me was a move in elder who asked where my wife was. this is interesting, as she has not attended a meeting in four months and this elder has never met her. was he being a little saracastic?
    let the reader use discernment. i did manage to talk him out of june km. i then went to the magazine counter to pick up mags and was told "we gave yours all away." this love is killing me....so then like a ghost i faded away, well almost, i have a pickup with loud pipes and could not resist leaving a little rubber in the parking lot.... if an undf person lays rubber in the parking lot will anyone really hear it??

    if you sum all of this up, it is just how the wt punishes those who expose child molesters. think how much more horrific this would be if i was a victim. yet far worse things have happened to poor victims who are run off from all friends and family when they try to seek justice. i do this for a purpose, but what about the victims who are fighting for their sanity while watching the child molester have parts on the meeting, remain an elder or ms and have the blessing of the congregation at the direction of the wt?

    outrage

    need i say more?

  • TR
    TR

    Un-fricken-believable. But I believe it. Makes me want to go to a meeting this week. Sounds like fun.

    I appreciate what you've done and are doing.

    TR

    "Kults Suck"

  • Had Enough
    Had Enough

    Hello silentlambs:

    What a horrible thing to have to endure. I am dumbfounded! This org. that I loved so much has just sunk to a new low in my eyes.

    How can they possibly carry on this way? I just can't understand how they justify their sweeping the molester under their wings and leaving the poor innocent victims and you, their protector, 'out in the cold' like that. And to go against the society's instructions of not letting him give talks or comment and are so fiercely protecting really is suspect. How they can ignore all the testimonies against him is beyond me. It really makes me wonder what more they are hiding.

    I give you credit for sticking it out to the end of the meeting like that enduring the unspeakable unloving, cold treatment.

    The only bright moment in your story was picturing the attendant following you around (to the bathroom?) and then you turning the tables on him and following him. Looks good on them! .

    We, at least, are all behind you and will help in any way we can.

    Had Enough (and shaking my head in disgust)

  • AGuest
    AGuest

    welcome to the real 'world' (pun intended). I am sure you are familiar with the phrase, "If you were PART of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own." You, dear one, have shown yourself to be NO PART... of 'the world'... by exposing its 'wicked' works and bad 'fruit'. And thus now, the 'world'... now hates you.

    It was the bad 'fruit' which sickened you and the bad 'air' that stifled your breath. You HAD 'quit touching' them and will continue to do so. But you're not done yet; you have not yet experienced the 'gnashing' of their 'teeth', and you are going to be absolutely AMAZED when you see it. Absolutely. You are truly going to know what my Lord meant when he said it: it is literal.

    I am TRULY sorry that you experiencing such conduct from a 'house' that CALLS itself Israel, and CALLS itself God's people. Sure. Yeah. Right. Okay. But you KNOW that you would not find the Christ to be so. My heart goes out to you... and ALL who suffer 'persecution' at the hands of these imposters. Not the brothers/sisters that are actually treating you this way, but the 'false christs' who have taught them to be such. They are reprehensible cowards who turned my Lord's sheep over to wolves.

    Chapter 23 of Jeremiah might shed a little more 'light' on the subject and give you some 'insight'. In the meantime, my prayers are with you and please KNOW this, that a slave is not greater than his master. If you are 'true man of God', and your position denotes to ME that you are... then you know that 'in the SAME way they persecuted me (our Lord), they will persecute you also.' Indeed, they persecute you... 'without cause'... for THEIR 'works'... are wicked.

    I bid you that peace that comes from my Lord and will pray that he guide and assist you in your 'commission'.

    Your servant and a slave of Christ,

    SJ

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    : i have never in my life even sat before a judicial committee, yet it appears i have created a new qualification within the organization. the undf, you go to meetings yet you do not exist. a sidepoint-when i showed up for service about a month ago, i was assigned in my own car by myself with no territory. anyone ever heard of that one?

    Dang, Silent! THAT is every pioneer's dream. I still might be a dub if I was THAT lucky. No one watching. No territory. BINGO! I just put in 16 hours that day. At the coffee shop, the bowling alley, the movie theater and later on, perhaps a tavern! You are one lucky devil. No monitors and no surveillance!

    : back to the meeting, during the instruction talk i decide to go to the bathroom, as usual i am escorted by an attendant who follows me when i leave my seat.

    Ah! Potential Kingdom Hall "bathroom crime" here. One can commit all kinds of crimes alone in a Kingdom Hall bathroom. I'd be leery of you, too! You might try to whiz in a "non-Theocratic" way. Shame on you should you ever try that.

    : finally, another hand goes up which he pounces on for relief. did i mention that part of the undf? i am told i am not on restrictions and can comment freely, but everyone who has a part on the meeting is instructed not to call on me. I like to raise my hand about 20 to 30 times when i attend, just to make a statement.

    "Theee-oh-cratic Warfare is the operative statement. The WTS is befuddled with you, SL. They can't mess you up officially. It would cause them more damage than they could deal with. You told the truth. They are covering up the truth. So, they will do their best to torment you and use their loser-elders and loser R&F dubs to make your visits miserable. They are one mostly conforming group of cowardly, vindictive bastards.

    : he confessed to multiple acts of oral and regular sex with a local sister and not telling anyone for three years. we let him off with reproof, i was so jaded at that point i could not see much point to the judicial process. yet this guy gets up on the stage and proceeds to chastize the congregation for hiding sin?

    This is a good example of the rotten wine-skins the society has reaped. They will have their comeuppance, and you, my friend are the catalyst for that. Your victory will be a David and Goliath one. I'm certain of that. They are just trying to hurt you. They are VERY, VERY afraid of you. Why? You are honest and they are liars and the truth is about to be vetted. Thanks to you taking your bold stand. Our mutual friends would never have come forth until someone like you created the stir that motivated them to come forth. You, sir, are a modern-day DAVID. (Not a "David 'class'", though. Thank God for that! We don't need ANY more "classes" in our lives! :) )

    : when it came time for the demonstration the local child molester gave the sermon. this is the individual who lied about the multiple molestations of one child and may have molested as many as five children i personally know, this person was offering a "teaching" part on the service meeting. this was specifically stated as a no no in the letter we recieved from the society, yet there he was as big as life.

    It's all the fault of the children, SL. If they were foolish enough not to get another witness or two handy when they were molested, then it's all their fault. Children need to know "Theocratic(tm)" procedures to survive in WatchtowerLife(tm). If they don't know those procedures, well, too bad for them. It's ALL their fault. Chronic molesters do have rights in "Jehovah's Spiritual Paradise," you know. Yes, I'm sure you know this already. :)

    : if you sum all of this up, it is just how the wt punishes those who expose child molesters.

    Had anyone spoken out about "Jehovah" in the Numbers 31 episode where child molesters were ordered to do what they did, "Jehovah" would have likely killed them. The WTS has a great role-model for their policies: an evil Biblical God. And He is "Bible-based," too.

    I'm sorry to have to point that out, but they do. Really.

    The whole thing is so sickening I'm at a loss for words. Except these: keep up the good work and never lose your integrity and honesty. They are the most important qualities we humans can have. They ultimately define our lives and maybe even our destinies.

    Farkel

  • Norm
    Norm

    Hi silentlambs,

    Thanks for the report. Having a goon following you around is standard procedure in Dub land. If a known apostate show up at a meeting or an assembly they will have their own personal "security" follow them around, they have done that for a long time. We have had personal experiences of that here. This is a procedure very similar to the one followed by regimes like the North Korean, the old East German and also in Theocracies like Iran and Taliban in Afghanistan.

    The WTS demonstate their close relationship to their spiritual "brothers" in other totalitarian systems, using the same tools of intimidation and opression.

    Particularly revealing is the situation where the pedophile is a "respected" part of the congregation while a person following his conscience is treated in such a despicable manner. A very telling demonstration of how incredible evil a system like that is.

    Another example of the fact that the only thing that matters is the Organization. To keep it's facade chalked white, they are willing to commit any act, any evil deed.

    Again we have got a glimpse of the true hideous, evil and corrupt face of religion.

    Norm.

  • tergiversator
    tergiversator

    Hey Silentlambs,

    "Undf" is such a great word... I'm sorry they're treating you so contemptuously. At least you appear to be making the best of it - raising your hand often, playing tag with the attendant (so thoughtful of you to give him something to do other then, uh, count the number of people there five times).

    Just wanted to add my voice to those here who support what you're doing.

    -T.

  • Scorpion
    Scorpion

    silentlambs,

    Thank you for all you have done. Next time you go to the meeting, take a woopee cushion with you and have it blown up hidden in your coat. The next person that follows you around at the meeting, squeeze the cushion real hard and then stand looking at the guy as if he was the one that did it.

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf
    and then stand looking at the guy as if he was the one that did it.

    What! Silentlambs tell a lie? ... naaaawwwww, not silentlambs ... surely not.

    Yadirf

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    : What! Silentlambs tell a lie? ... naaaawwwww, not silentlambs ... surely not.

    Not so far. Can you name one? I see the Exodus from H20 is now complete. Even dummies like you have left the water-hole and migrated here. We have You Know, Fred Hall and Friday: the three stooges. Well, welcome Yardif. Let us get to work and do some good, shall we?

    Farkel

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