So the elders want to meet with me.... (page 2)

Tina_Belina

They already asked my dad to step down as an MS as soon as I was df'ed. Of course it was "his decision." Funny thing was at the time I was living on my own, so why he was punished then was beyond me.

Stacy Smith

Tina if you don't want to meet, don't. I was recently contacted by an elder who wants to meet with just me. I plan to meet with him.

Are you a forceful personality? If so you'll be able to direct the conversation in the direction you want it to go. So if you do have things you want to be said then go for it. If not then tell them to kiss your butt.

I am really looking forward to next friday night. I've asked my DAed parents to go to the movies. I don't want to feel I need to hold back. It's going to be fun. The elder who called used to stare at my chest back when I was only 13 or 14. Ya think I'll have a tight T on or what? Then I'll bust his ass as soon as he looks there. Something along the lines of, enjoy the view brother? Yep, it will be fun.

Gopher

I'm very skeptical though. I really have no interest in talking with them. I love my life right now, why should I be pushed back into the "I'm a bad person. I'm evil" guilt trip?

Tina, you're onto them! Listen to that little voice.

You don't need to be told how much you're lacking, how close "the end" is, yadda, yadda, yadda. And your parents know that. (How did they come to value a family relationship with you in the face of such pressure from the organization? Anyhow, good for them!)

fran

Tina,

i would say no,unless you are pretty srong.The Elders still have ways of manipulating you,either this is done lovingly,or with a firm hand,either way works.At the end of the day a cult...is a cult...is a cult....I had two elders call on me when i was questioning 'apostate' information.they used police tactics you know.....one firm..one loving/concerned..When it was said to me......Fran.our kids grew up together,think of all the happy times,pulling at my heart strings.IT WORKED for i was not strong enough then,did not have all my answers.I was showing them 'Apostate'info,i wrote to Bethal sending off a list of questions.We discussed these questions when the Elders called.One said "throw it in the bin".they prayed over me said i was confused,decided to extend mercy......what did i say THANK YOU!!!.

But I received more info,questioned again,more elders,wives sisters.brothers.I thought I was going mad.i was told by a sister that Russell would have never been involved with the things I mentioned,that it was 'apostate'talk.I was told Ray Franz was 'Judas'I asked about all the suicides i heard of answer was;"Well what did Judas do?"I asked about children/babies dying from no blood.Was told not to be silly."No minor child would be allowed to die".I asked why if this law on blood was given to the Jews,why is it they have transfusions do not have a problem with that,for they consider this law to be dietary.also Christianised Jews have blood."I don't know"was the reply."But they argue with God,disobey Him"and this came from a Scholar.Hospital Liasson elder.I asked so many questions for I really wanted JWS to be right.

Some senior Elders well grounded in the truth have all the 'apostate'info access sites and forums to defend the org:WT have had a lot of bad publicity,I know dsfd are called on,a few in my town have told me,also inactive ones.they tried this with me,over and over,I politely asked them not to call,wrote to them,phoned,I was sent 'Apsotate scriptures,still they called.....finally i sent a letter to PO,and threatened police action,then put a sticker on my window.....(NO VISITS FROM JWS)............I blew my top told them it was no good calling on me like the GESTAPO.

Told them they were an evil cult.That they misrepresnted God and the Bible to me,that they have a history of falseness,that they have lost all compassion..........That their org is a false prophet full of counterfeit words........Deut18.

They are trained to deal with every kind of situation.......All the love and concern i initially had changed suddenly i was satans person,a dog returning to the vomit.a pig.the looks of hatred from friends unbeleiveable,THE LOVE IS CONDITIONAL we will only love you if you OBEY.

Don't go back to this....you are free now,no-one has the right to control you ever again.Love Fran

Rick Aust

I am still an "active" JW, but my field service is zero, so the elders have in the pass asked me that they want to have a "sheperding call" on me. All I have said was"thanks, but no thanks", they ask "why"? and I just tell them "I don't wanna talk about it" and I just go on with my life.

I hate the way they do sheperding calls, its only to make the C/O happy and in turn give themselves a few extrsa points. They don't really give a dame about you.

In your case, I'm sure there only doing it because of the C/O and there probably putting a bit of pressure on your family too. But just them tell "NO Thank you."

regards Rick

Sentinel

Tina, you are so very fortunate that your parents allow you to live with them, and that you can now live "honestly" and in tune with your heart. If you meet with these brothers, that could change.

If you are moving forward and away from borg control, I would think long and hard before placing yourself before them in any type of "meeting". Unless these people are genuienely good friends and you wish to see them and show them that you have not rotted away because you don't believe "the truth" anymore, I see no point. No doubt they are trying to establish that you are now a non-believer who is bad association, and should not be living in your parents home. (No telling what horrible influence you may be having on them.) Sometimes, I truly feel that "they" are just so curious about what the "outsider" is up to, that they will use any excuse to have a little get-together.

Frantic

Tina, its glad to see your parents understand you and that it is possible to lead a life outside the Witness camp. Awesome. Frantically Insane Andy

integ

Stacy,

I was recently contacted by an elder who wants to meet with just me. I plan to meet with him.

Are'nt they not supposed to meet with a female one on one? Maybe he's looking for some action. I'd watch out.

Integ.

simplesally

Tina,

I'd just say you were busy, thanks but I just can't talk about things right now! Then get your hanky out and dab your eyes........ and try not laugh.

95stormfront

I love my life right now, why should I be pushed back into the "I'm a bad person. I'm evil" guilt trip?

Been there, done that, and got the stupid t-shirt to prove it. I got my "loving shepherding elder" visit a while ago. After the fake-ass pleasantries were dispensed with they got down to the business of asking me what my schedule was and how they could help me come back to the meetings. I flat out told them in no uncertain terms that I'm not interested in going back to the meetings, didn't need their help, and that I was quite happy with the way my life was going.....thank you very much.

The look on their faces when they realized that I was not going to be guilt-tripped or railroaded by their self-perceived authority over me was priceless.

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