The Rainbow as a sign to Noah (page 3)

Jeremy30

Hi, Simon; hi, all

"To back this up, there was a rainbow in the sky as a sign.
Now, what causes a rainbow? Sun and... rain !"

Am I the only person who vaguely remembers an article in the Watchtower or Awake!
magazine which stated a fantastic claim that god somehow changed the laws of
physics and the dual nature of light to create a rainbow?

I saw the article when researching material for a TMS talk. It dates back to around
the early 1970's from my parents WTS "library". I will look up the piece when
I visit them next weekend. (I have become obsessed with "the Flood" ever
since I read the essays by Alan Feuerbacher - thank you very much, sir!)

Jeremy

patio34

Jeremy,

Please tell me where I can read AlanF's writings on the flood. Thanks.

Pat

Farkel

Simon,

This ia a bit off the topic of your thread, but it brought up in my mind something I'd never thought about before. Noah and family and animals were on the ark for about a year, right? There was EVERY type of basic specie on that ark too, right?

What do critters do? They breed, that's what. Ark or no ark, they breed. Felines and canines have litters, and so do rabbits and mice and ferrets and most smaller animals. Rabbits breed four or five times a year. Some insects lay thousands of eggs. Birds lay eggs, with clutches of eggs as high as four or five per clutch. It has already been demonstrated that the ark with its dimensions as described in the Bible could not possibly hold even the most basic of animal varieties, let alone be big enough to feed these animals for a year, but now we're talking about BABIES from ALL creatures born over the span of a year! Where was the room for all those little suckers? The poop and pee problem alone could not have been dealt with with only 8 caretakers for ALL the non-seagoing species on earth, including insects.

Did Noah and family toss those little ones overboard when they were born? The Bible doesn't say. Desperate apologists will use some sort of reason like, "well, maybe God wouldn't let them thousands of different kinds of animals get pregnant." Sure God could do that, but God could have also killed the entire planet of wicked humans with a blast of his breath and not caused a flood, either. Why does the OT God always have to do things the hard and stupid way? He doesn't have an ounce of common sense, if the OT is to be believed.

Considering the varieties of birds, insects, spiders, rodents, and the much bigger animals that HAD to be on the ark to preserve the animal kingdom, and considering their abilities to breed, Noah and his 7 helpers would have spend an entire year just heaving newborn critters over the side of the ark. But even if that were possible, there is still another sticky problem: the amount of rain that must have fallen to cover the earth with water as the Bible describes would have KILLED any human who stepped out in the rain to hurl those newborn animals overboard.

I know how Noah disposed of them: he tossed them all down the drain! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(How did he toss the newborn baby elephant overboard or down the "drain" or the baby rhino for that matter?)

I know: "trust in Jehovah." Yep. That's always the last-resort answer. Trust the guy who rubbed all of his children off the whole planet. Ok, fine.

Farkel

patio34,

Here:

http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/index2.htm

Farkel

Faraon

Hello Patio,
Here are a couple of sites that will start you on the flood reading
http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/flood01.htm
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
Enough material to keep a fundy busy for hours.

JRP

Jeremy30

Hi, patio34.

This is the website that I have been frequenting for the last few months
... http://www.geocities.com/osarsif/index2.htm

Hi, Farkel!

I really hope you see this because you are my "idol" (lol).

..(How did he toss the newborn baby elephant overboard or down the "drain" or the baby
rhino for that matter?)

Am I missing something or isn't the gestation period for elephants about 2 years, and the
flood was only one year (or forty days, whatever)?
(IMHO, the flood is a myth, so this point is basically moot).

Jeremy (humble like Moses class)

Farkel

: I really hope you see this because you are my "idol" (lol).

Idol worship is EVIL! Sending money is NOT evil, nor is it un-Biblical. Sending LOTS of money is not wrong, either. I've checked. Write me for more details. Unmarked and circulated bills are best. :)

..(How did he toss the newborn baby elephant overboard or down the "drain" or the baby
rhino for that matter?)

: Am I missing something or isn't the gestation period for elephants about 2 years, and the
flood was only one year (or forty days, whatever)?

The rain lasted forty days, but it took the most part of a year for the waters to recede. When the highest mountains on the planet are covered with water, the water takes a while to go somewhere. Where it could or did go, I haven't a clue. Mount Everest is nearly five miles high from sea level and the seas and oceans would have had to also have another five miles of water on top of them because gravity always dictates that water will take the lowest ground. So, it probably took about a year for that water to "go somewhere."

I know! God had another "drain" in the earth somewhere, and he pulled the plug on it. Up to five miles of water over the entire earth, just went down the drain, so to speak! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Nothing in the Bible says that only non-pregnant animals were permitted on the ark, and even if they were, I'm sure Noah and family were not veterinarians, and probably didn't have time to stick their hands in there to determine whether that elephant and rhino were pregnant, or not. Even if he did do that, I'm sure the elephant and/or rhino would have been highly pissed at the invasion of their privacy. It's best not to piss off pregnant rhinos. They have no sense of humor. Non-pregnant rhinos have no sense of humor, either.
Rhinos are not happy-go-lucky creatures.

Now it's possible that God brought non-pregnant animals to Noah for their stay in ark-land. That is certainly possible. It's also possible that God "beamed" over Kangaroos and the platypus and the Koala and other non-local and exotic species, because they certainly were not good enough swimmers to navigate thousands of miles of ocean to get to the ark. If they could do that they wouldn't be in the best of health when they arrived. (Farkel is trying to imagine a Kangaroo "swimming" across thousands of miles of ocean and the poor Koala stuck somewhere in Egypt trying to get to the Ark. "Where in the hell are those eucalyptus leaves?", he thinks as he crosses over
Egypt. Damn! I'm HUNGRY!")

Forget all the logical dilemmas, just "trust in Jehovah." Pflooooooooooot!

Farkel

crossroads

Why was it mans fault that the angles came down and
enjoyed all the pretty woman and produced Hercules?
Couldn't this all good and great and powerful being
summon his angels back to heaven and then come
up with some plague to get rid of the offspring. Or
didn't HE come up with that plague idea yet?

Genesis 6:6&7 And the LORD was sorry (sorry?) that
HE had made man on earth(where else does HE have us)
and HE was grieved in HIS heart.

So the LORD said,"I wiil destroy man whom I have created
from the face of the earth, both man and beast(why),
creeping thing and birds of the air(why)
for I am sorry(sorry?) that I have made them"
from NKJV

Of course as the story goes HE found Noah and yadyadyad.
Oh a little off point but HE must have been sorry HE created
dinosaurs too. Does this great inventor KNOW what HE is
inventing or what?

Why is he mad at all the animals and not the sea creatures?
Is it because HE has know way of destroying them?
Also if HE was mad at the animals and man did HE
think starting from scratch with all the leftovers would
produce anything better then what was? Please all
tell me this almighty god of ours is smarter than that.
I'm not really understanding what was really accomplished
by this mass murder of man and animal. Except putting
HIS purpose 2000 years behind schedule. You all know
the only purpose that HE gave us. Fill the earth and subdue it.
I know I'm just an apostate please pray for me.
Peace and Love
Mark

kes152

Ummm.......

For those of you who obviously DON'T READ!!!!!

My Father promised to never bring a deluge upon the earth to destroy all flesh.

He did not promise to NEVER BRING RAIN!!!

Now, you tell me, when was the last time my Father brought a deluge upon the earth since Noah's?

Things that make you go hmm........

Aaron

digderidoo

You know they ate the dinosaurs don't you....that's why they became extinct....kept them in food for years.

Yours dig

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The Rainbow as a sign to Noah

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