I looks to me like mom and her two boys could kick the shit out of the San Francisco 49ers football team. I'm surprised perpetrators could pull this off, unless it was a sneak attack and a heavy duty weapon(s).
Very sad indeed.
Gumby
3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered
by Kenneson 35 Replies latest jw friends
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Panda
I'm with SheilaM, those look like Drivers License pictures.
How typical of the dubs to mention serving Jehovah, real choked up by those deaths, huh?
The cops obviously have a suspect. Probably the person involved in the previous 911 calls.
Blondie says a relative ... I think so too.
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ESTEE
Yes, because if they had enjoyed a marlboro light over a can of schlitz, then the fact that they were murdered might somehow make sense.
Yup...that's my thinking too...
ESTEE
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abbagail
I first heard this on the local central Florida 5-6pm news Monday 12/1, and then the 11pm news, and then Tuesday's 5-6pm and 11pm newscasts (ABC,WFTV-#9) and not once did they ever say these people were JWs even though I suspected right away they were because the newscast DID say they were discovered when 'church people came to their home.' I thought, what church people go to other people's homes but JWs. Anyway, I thought it was odd they didn't mention the JW-connection on the TV.
One of the sons was going to college to be a paramedic - ???
Headline: Bible study visit leads to horrific discovery
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/volusia/orl- locslaying03120303dec03,1,3459724.story?coll=orl-news-headlines-volusia
Headline: Investigators search for motive in deaths of mother, 2 sons http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/03NewsHEAD04120203.htm
Headline: Clues Sought In Triple Homicide http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031202/lo_wesh/1901571
Headline: Missing Car Found In Volusia Triple Homicide http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ibsys/20031202/lo_wkmg/1901094 -
Greenpalmtreestillmine
The article said there had been an assault reported there. Their photos look more like mugshots of drug dealers.
These people were murdered. Why poke fun at the dead?
What kind of person does that?
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When I hear people refer to others, as those that dont even smoke or drink, it usually means they are squeaky clean.
this is too bad, a sad tragedy. It was probably some freak relative or something...that usually seems to be the case.
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abbagail
Wednesday, 12/3/03, WESH-NBC #2, 11pm news report:
Shannon Hori is live outside the home "Near Orange City", where she talks to people who knew the victims."
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abbagail
Daytona Beach News-Journal front page: http://www.news-journalonline.com/
THURSDAY, DEC. 4, 2003
THE INDEPENDENT VOICE OF VOLUSIA & FLAGLER COUNTIES
Congregation gathers, prays for family found dead
Three chairs in the second to last row on the left stood unusually empty at Wednesday night's church service.
Special Report:
-Orange City triple homicide
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News-Journal Special Report: Orange City Triple Homicide: http://www.news-journalonline.com/special/ochomicide/index.html
THURSDAY, DEC. 4, 2003
THE INDEPENDENT VOICE OF VOLUSIA & FLAGLER COUNTIES
West Volusia News
Congregation gathers, prays for family found dead http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/03NewsHEAD01120403.htm
Three chairs in the second to last row on the left stood unusually empty at Wednesday night's church service.
[PHOTO] Capt. Dave Hudson, a Volusia County Sheriff's Office investigator, talks to reporters Tuesday outside the home near Orange City where the bodies of a mother and her two sons were discovered. Deputies are investigating the deaths as homicides. N-J/Chad Pilster
Killings shock congregation
http://www.news-journalonline.com/special/ochomicide/03NewsHEAD01120303.htm
Victim's car found, may offer clues to attack
Eugenio Muriel grew suspicious right away when he arrived for Bible study and found the door ajar to the Orange City home. The TV was playing inside, but no one answered his knock.
Investigators search for motive
in deaths of mother, 2 sons
http://www.news-journalonline.com/special/ochomicide/03NewsHEAD04120203.htm
Volusia County sheriff's deputies are searching for a motive today in the deaths of a mother and her two sons, who bodies were found in their Biscayne Drive home near Orange City Monday night. -
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http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/03NewsHEAD01120403.htm
Congregation gathers, prays for family found dead
By PATRICIO G. BALONA
Staff Writer
Last update: 04 December 2003
ORANGE CITY -- Three chairs in the second to last row on the left stood unusually empty at Wednesday night's church service.
They were the seats always occupied by Carmen Negron, 63, and her two sons, Gilberto Vergara-Negron, 28, and Yamir Orlando Vergara-Negron, 26. At the weekly service at the Kingdom Hall of the Jehovah's Witnesses on Minnesota Avenue, the three familiar faces were missed.
The congregation prayed for the family that was found dead in their Biscayne Drive home near Orange City on Monday night.
"It is a very difficult moment because we have lost our brothers and sister," said Pablo Mateo, pastor of the church's Spanish-speaking congregation.
Eugenio Muriel, who coordinated a weekly Jehovah's Witnesses Bible study at the home of the Negrons, discovered the bodies when he arrived at 7:20 p.m. Monday. After no one answered his knock on the door, he entered the house and found the younger son bloodied, lying face up on the floor near the kitchen table. Gilberto was lying in a fetal position in front of a television left on. Carmen Negron lay facedown in a pool of blood in the bathroom, Muriel said.
"It was something tragic and it hurt all of us," said Gabriel Guadalupe, a church member who announced funeral arrangements during the Wednesday service.
A funeral service will be at the Orange City church at 7 p.m. Saturday, Guadalupe said. Deltona Funeral Home is handling the arrangements.
Meanwhile, sheriff's investigators have finished processing a white 1995 Honda Civic recovered in Orlando Tuesday afternoon. The car was registered to Carmen and Gilberto, investigators said.
"We are analyzing the evidence," said sheriff's spokesman Gary Davidson, adding that no significant development has been made in the case.
The Negrons' deaths make seven the Sheriff's Office has investigated this year. The other four have been solved.
At the Kingdom Hall of the Jehovah's Witnesses on Wednesday night, even with prayer, congregation members struggled to accept the tragedy.
"There is an emptiness that will last for days, weeks and perhaps years," Muriel said. "Especially when tragedy strikes at people we love very much."
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abbagail
http://www.news-journalonline.com/special/ochomicide/03NewsHEAD01120303.htm
THURSDAY, DEC. 4, 2003
THE INDEPENDENT VOICE OF VOLUSIA & FLAGLER COUNTIES
Killings shock congregation
Victim's car found, may offer clues to attack
By KRISTEN MOCZYNSKI and PATRICIO G. BALONA
Staff Writers
Last update: 03 December 2003
ORANGE CITY -- Eugenio Muriel grew suspicious right away when he arrived for Bible study and found the door ajar to the Orange City home. The TV was playing inside, but no one answered his knock.
"I opened the screen door and immediately saw the first body," Muriel recalled Tuesday, the day after discovering the dead bodies of a 63-year-old woman and her two grown sons.
Muriel, who coordinated the weekly Jehovah's Witnesses Bible study at the family's house, said he saw Yamir Orlando Vergara-Negron, 26, lying face up on the floor beside the kitchen table, his face bloodied and his head in a pool of blood. He walked to a bedroom where the TV played and found Gilberto Vergara-Negron, 28, lying in the fetal position, looking like he was still watching TV.
As he turned to leave, he could see into the bathroom, where Carmen Negron, 63, was lying face down in a pool of blood, he said.
Volusia County Sheriff's investigators have ruled the deaths homicides by "violent means" but would not reveal details about how the quiet family in the Breezewood Park subdivision died.
Investigators reported Gilberto's 1995 white Honda Civic missing Monday night and found the car in Orlando on Tuesday afternoon. They hope the abandoned car will yield clues about what happened in the Biscayne Drive house.
Muriel was unable to say how the three were killed because he ran outside to calm hysteric church members there for the Bible study.
In an exasperated voice, he explained to a 911 dispatcher what he saw. He said the victims were bleeding and the blood was dried.
Volusia County Sheriff's Capt. Dave Hudson said the Honda was seen leaving the house sometime Monday afternoon.
Witnesses at the scene said the last time anyone from the family was heard from was Saturday night.
Hudson said there definitely was a struggle inside the home, but would not comment about whether there were signs of a forced entry or any weapons found.
Muriel said the house had been ransacked.
Hudson would not speculate on how many people were involved in the killings, but he ruled out a murder-suicide. He said evidence in the home, which he would not discuss, provided a good indication of what happened and why. He said he did not believe the family's religious beliefs played a part in their deaths, nor is there any indication the sons were involved in criminal activities.
The victim's 1995 Honda Civic, was found at 2 p.m. Tuesday in a parking lot across the street from the Orlando Police Department, Hudson said. The car was sent to Volusia County and investigators plan to examine it Thursday.
According to a parking attendant in Orlando, the car had been there since 4 p.m. Monday, Hudson said.
He said investigators have not determined if anything else was stolen from the house, but items of value were still there.
Hudson could not confirm claims by a neighbor that a school-age child had been living in the home and Carmen often walked the child to the bus stop.
On Tuesday, Muriel and other members of the Spanish congregation of the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses in Orange City gathered at the house of Roberto Negron, Carmen's brother and only relative living here. Roberto declined to comment.
Carmen Negron and her sons moved to Florida from Puerto Rico seven years ago, Muriel said. She had been a Jehovah's Witness for 15 years and a member of the Orange City congregation since moving here.
Muriel said church members were shocked and couldn't understand why this happened.
"They are an exemplary family," said Eduardo Rivera, a church member. "It was a family who did no harm to anyone but were more than willing to help."
Carmen was widowed and collected Social Security checks. Muriel said she suffered from chronic back problems, but would not elaborate.
Gilberto was the "big teddy bear" who supported the family. He was the only one with a job and a car, said Jenny Georgi, general manager at the Alamo Rental Car in Sanford where Gilberto worked as a mechanic.
Georgi said Gilberto was very quiet, naive and didn't do much outside of work and church. She said he was a "man of few words" and "always had a smile on his face.
"Pretty much his mom and his brother were his life," she said. "Everything was about church and his family."
The youngest, Yamir, went by the name Orlando and was a "model student" in Seminole Community College's EMT training course, coordinator Robert McGraw said. He would have graduated next week. McGraw said classmates were devastated to hear the news of the family's deaths, and instructors gave them the day off.
Orlando, who primarily spoke Spanish, worked extra hours to overcome the language barrier.
"He was a hard-working kid who had a goal and a lot of obstacles to overcome," McGraw said.
Muriel said church members are waiting on the Sheriff's Office to release the bodies before making funeral arrangements.
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-- Staff Writer Lynn Bulmahn contributed to this report.