For those with severe depression, with a potential of SUISIDE!

by cyberguy 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • cyberguy
    cyberguy

    For those with severe depression, with a potential of suiside! PLEASE! PLEASE, PLEASE! RECONSIDER!

    I did a recent post and didn?t catch, until recently, a person who posted, that apparently, has suicidal tendencies! My mistake, regrettably! However, for those with severe mental depression and not knowing a way out, PLEASE post to this board and let us know about it! Maybe we can help, maybe we can?t! However, if you ?re severely depressed, please get help! PLEASE call a health professional! If nothing else, PLEASE try expressing yourself here! Let us know that you?re really struggling!

    However, since most of us are not medical professionals, we may not be able to provide sufficient help for you at this time. However, we?d be glad to assist where we can, and/or get professional help for you, if you want!

    If any of you fine folks on this board are willing to help in this regard, PLEASE say so here, and let anyone who visits here, know that help is just around-the-corner! You have "real" friends here and "we" want to help!

    Best regards,

    Cyberguy

  • RAYZORBLADE
    RAYZORBLADE

    Cyberguy, thanks for the heads-up.

    This site, really moves so fast, that it doesn't take much, and a very important post/thread, gets bumped down the list, but not deliberately.

    It's how things are here.

    But I'm glad you persisted.

    We're here.

    Whatever we can do in word, we will do whatever it takes.

    Best wishes, to you Cyberguy.

    Kindest regards,
    Rayzorblade

  • Oxnard Hamster
    Oxnard Hamster

    I thought about suicide a few times after I left the borg for good. They are really good about planting doubt, about how if you are not one of them, then you are inferior trash. I guess being an unbaptized publisher falling for a girl who is a pioneer, and an elder's daughter to boot, really took it's toll on me.

    Strange thing is, it's as if I was put under a spell. I never had feelings for her until an older lady in the congration hinted that I should "be friends with her." She told me when looking for a marriage mate, not to look too far. But I never really worked up the courage to talk to this girl. I never had any idea how she felt about me, or how the congregation would feel if we were to go out or even talk. This depressed me for a long time, but I've always felt ashamed to tell people about it, because I feel I'm getting so upset over something as trivial as falling for someone.

    But I'm glad you made this thread. I feel better already. Actually, I haven't thought about suicide lately. I decided to make the best of life and to enjoy time with my friends and family. I could give a hoot less what those stuck up jerks at my old congregation think of me anymore.

  • AJN
    AJN

    This is also a good resource: http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

  • cyberguy
    cyberguy

    Thanks AJN!

  • cyberguy
    cyberguy

    Thanks "Oxnard Hamster!"

    Dude, many here are depressed as result or indirect-result of their association with JW?s. Don?t despair! Keep-you-chin-up! (One of my writing books says I should use lots of hyphens! Hehe!) Life will get better!

    PLEASE SAY: "I?M NOT INFERIOR! I?M NOT INFERIOR! I?M NOT INFERIOR!" (OK , 3 time for emphasis?Watchtower says that?s a Bible rule, GET IT!)

    Wake-up each morning and tell yourself this again and again! You?re unique, have abilities and can overcome any obstacles!

    Add a little levity to your life, find a lover, raise a family, determine to live life to the full, and finally, search for GOD if you will!

    Post here often if you need more support! Pour-your-heart-out here! You've got friends here!

    Cheers,

    Cyberguy!

  • Oxnard Hamster
    Oxnard Hamster
    PLEASE SAY: "I?M NOT INFERIOR! I?M NOT INFERIOR! I?M NOT INFERIOR!" (OK , 3 time for emphasis?Watchtower says that?s a Bible rule, GET IT!)

    Heh, that felt good. Thanks for your support. I've really felt like I've been able to use this place as a retreat of sorts. It is a good place to hear other people's stories and see that the WT can be conquered.

  • darkuncle29
    darkuncle29

    The main thing that kept me from suicide while an active JW and fading was the realization that I would be hurting family and friends.

    In my head, I reversed the situation, and knew that I would be hurt/angry/pissed if one of my friends had commited suicide.

    So what kept me alive was my own personal axiom: Death is not an option.

    Skipping ahead a few years, I realized if I was going to get better, I had to want to get better. I had to choose to be better. Happiness can not be given to you. You have to find and define it yourself. Even as I write this I am not "Happy", but I am "content".

    I then set about being honest with myself. Am I a good person? Generally yes. Am I likeable (by my own standards)? Yes.

    Am I loveable? This one is tricky. Yes, but I didn't (don't?) understand (or feel) why. "Why?" is a big question in my mind for many things.

    These issues are too complex to boil down to a simple fix. To get past suicide/negative emotions, onw has to change ones thinking pattern.

    A side question that fascinates me is this: If your brain chemistry can affect how you think and feel, can changing how you think and feel affect your brain chemistry?

    If for the sake of argument we assume that is true, how does one go about changing their thoughts to change their chemistry?

    Sorry to have wandered afield here.

  • shamus
    shamus

    Suicide is beyond the scope of this board in my opinion and in many others opinion. If someone needs help, they must seek it out immediately.

    I, too, suffer from depression. Suicidal thoughts have been with me my whole life... you just learn to live with it, like a voice whispering in your ear how rotten you are 24/7. You learn to not listen to that person.

    Look, go to other websites that are far more helpful than these ones! This only deals with Witness Issues. The person needs medical help, not opinion.

    www.wingofmadness.com

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    I tried to commit suicide years ago. I was pushed to the edge by a friend who wanted me to bare my soul to the elders and at that time I hadn't hardly done anything wrong to tell them. I couldn't take it and took a bottle of pills. When I told a few of my friends I was leaving being a JW, one of them told me to go blow my head off, or slit my wrists and do it right this time. Fortunately I am not suicidal at all now, or her words would have pushed me over the edge.

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