Disfellowshipping and Excutions

by blondie 15 Replies latest jw friends

  • blondie
    blondie

    *w60 2/1 80 - 17 There may be rare instances where a child is so hardened in its stubbornness that even the rod of correction cannot drive it out. In the days of Israel parents were instructed by Jehovah to take such a rebel to the city fathers and they, in turn, took the incorrigible one out and stoned him to death. There were no juvenile delinquents under such a system. (Deut. 21:18-21) So also today, the New World society of Jehovah's witnesses can not and will not tolerate juvenile delinquency to exist in its midst. So, to avoid a possible death-dealing blow by being disfellowshiped from the congregation.

    Or WT 1952 11/25 p. 703

    Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God’s law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshiped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof


    From this I understand that disfellowshipping that the person should be treated as if they were dead and continues that concept by saying thus a disfellowshipped person should not be spoken to or treated like they are live. I wonder if they still believe this.



  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    They don't stone.

    But they shun.

    Youre dead in their eyes. A dead man who's walking.

  • bamse
    bamse

    They obey Man over God!

  • DesirousOfChange
    DesirousOfChange
    From this I understand that disfellowshipping that the person should be treated as if they were dead and continues that concept by saying thus a disfellowshipped person should not be spoken to or treated like they are live. I wonder if they still believe this.

    I'd say they still believe all that. However, Caesar has forced them to lie about it use Theocratic Warfare strategies so as to appear they have changed their policy toward anyone removed from or leaving their little Cult.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Theocratic warfare means lying for the Borg.

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze
    There may be rare instances where a child is so hardened in its stubbornness that even the rod of correction cannot drive it out.

    Oh, but they sure as hell tried.

    This is Major Tom to Ground Control

    I'm stepping through the door

    And I'm floating in a most peculiar way

    And the stars look very different today



  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    I vividly remember a JW Elder proudly tell me they kicked their 15 yr old daughter out of the home. Whaaaaattt???!!!! That is child abuse. I was flabbergasted.

  • blondie
    blondie
    Balaamsass216 hours ago

    I vividly remember a JW Elder proudly tell me they kicked their 15 yr old daughter out of the home. Whaaaaattt???!!!! That is child abuse. I was flabbergasted.

    (And it is illegal according to the government to kick out a minor (under 18).

  • NotFormer
    NotFormer

    Kicking kids out of home after disfellowshipment was the old way of doing things. With some of the rule changes, how is that sort of situation handled now?

    Balaamsass2, what is the state of that family all these years later?

  • Balaamsass2
    Balaamsass2

    Well that California Elder is long dead. He worked till almost his death in his late 70s. His widow cleaned houses until her late 70s. They were both alcoholic back biters. Half their kids grew up hating JWs and them. I grew to sincerely regret ever voting to appoint him an elder. Total train wreck family.

    That poor girl was very damaged. She would be in her 40s now.

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