Something about obeying any instructions whether or not they seem strategic from a human standpoint or not.
Cant find the link right now.
FDS 1919 Declaration Date
by NotFormer 30 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Duran
Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY (jw.org)
During the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.
If you trust the direction we receive today and readily obey, you will likely do the same during the great tribulation.
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Beth Sarim
Great pick up.
The Wednesday Dec 13th text was completely along those words.
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Beth Sarim
Here is Elaines latest video on this weeks WT study.
It's pretty much on par with Wed, Dec 13th days text. Watch Elaines video carefully. The Borg could be prepping it's $heeple for something dramatic. Who knows. Here it is:
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ThomasMore
Duran - well that's good enough for me! I am going back to WTC! They clearly have the truth...
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Duran
They have something up their sleeve. Because they keep mentioning the illogical instructions coming to the r&f, that means they already know what they plan to instruct and when they will have to give those instructions.
w13 11/15 - 17 Elders who are reading this article can draw some useful conclusions from the account we have just considered: (1) The most practical step that we can take to prepare for the coming attack of “the Assyrian” is that of strengthening our faith in God and helping our brothers to do the same. (2) When “the Assyrian” attacks, the elders must be absolutely convinced that Jehovah will deliver us. (3) At that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.
w22 February -15 As the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in Jehovah’s way of doing things as never before. Why? During the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical. Of course, Jehovah will not speak to us personally. He will likely provide direction through his appointed representatives. That will hardly be the time to second-guess the direction or to view it with skepticism, wondering, ‘Is this really coming from Jehovah, or are the responsible brothers acting on their own?’ How will you fare during that crucial time in human history? The answer might be indicated by how you view theocratic direction now. If you trust the direction we receive today and readily obey, you will likely do the same during the great tribulation.—Luke 16:10.
Above 2022 reiterated on Dec 13, 2023 daily text.Below to be studied on Dec 17,2023
w23 October - 18 We can learn to obey. Jesus “learned obedience,” not from being in ideal conditions, but “from the things he suffered.” (Heb. 5:8) Like Jesus, we often learn obedience under challenging circumstances. For example, during the early part of the COVID-19 pandemic when we were asked to stop meeting at our Kingdom Halls and to suspend our house-to-house ministry, did you struggle to obey? Yet, your obedience protected you, united you with fellow believers, and pleased Jehovah. All of us are now better prepared to obey any instructions we receive during the great tribulation. Our lives may depend on it!—Job 36:11.
19 We have learned that obedience brings countless blessings. But we choose to obey Jehovah primarily because we love him and we want to please him. (1 John 5:3) We can never repay Jehovah for all that he has done for us. (Ps. 116:12) But we can obey him and those who have authority over us. If we obey, we show that we are wise. And the wise make Jehovah’s heart rejoice.—Prov. 27:11.
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Beth Sarim
Something up their sleeves??
Selling everything off. The cash and grab a few years ago. Keeping only $5000.00 in their local bank accounts.
Sell your house,,send your wills,,savings and proceeds to the Borg. You no longer need them.
A total 100% online religion is born.
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NotFormer
"For example, during the early part of the COVID-19 pandemic when we were asked to stop meeting at our Kingdom Halls and to suspend our house-to-house ministry, did you struggle to obey?"
Considering how central and sacrosanct those are to the WT, I'm not surprised if ordinary JWs struggled to accept a complete 180 from everything they had been told to hold dear!
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aqwsed12345
1. The Continuity of Christian Faith from the First Century Onward
The claim that there was no true Christianity between the second century and 1919 contradicts the biblical promise made by Jesus Himself. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus declared: "You are Peter, and on this rock, I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." This verse clearly shows that the Church, founded by Christ, would not fail or disappear. Jesus explicitly guaranteed that His Church would endure, and this assurance contradicts the idea of a total apostasy spanning nearly 1800 years.
Additionally, Jude 3 tells Christians to "contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints." This indicates that the faith was delivered once and for all, implying that the truth would not be completely lost for a prolonged period of time.
2. Apostasy is Foretold, but Not a Total Collapse
It’s true that the New Testament warns about false teachers and apostasy (e.g., 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Acts 20:29-30), but these passages never suggest a total collapse of Christianity. Rather, they speak of the appearance of false teachings and teachers within the Church. The existence of false teachings or movements within Christianity does not mean the Church itself failed. Throughout history, there have always been faithful believers who adhered to the true teachings of Christ.
Even in times of great corruption or error, as seen during the Middle Ages or during certain periods of church history, reform movements, councils, and individuals like the early Church Fathers and Saints defended and clarified Christian doctrine. These efforts show that God has always preserved a remnant of faithful Christians, as He promised.
3. The Claim of Restoration in 1919 Lacks Scriptural and Historical Support
The idea that God’s true people were restored in 1919 after a long period of spiritual captivity has no biblical foundation. The Jehovah’s Witnesses base this belief on a selective and allegorical interpretation of Ezekiel 37 and other prophetic passages, but there is no biblical prophecy that specifically points to 1919 as the year of restoration.
The vision in Ezekiel 37 about dry bones coming to life speaks of the restoration of Israel, not a future period of captivity and restoration for Christianity. Applying this to the period between the second century and 1919 is a misapplication of the text. Historically, many Christian denominations, including the Catholic and Orthodox churches, trace their roots back to the apostles and maintained a continuous presence long before 1919.
4. Jesus’ Role as Head of the Church
According to Jehovah’s Witness theology, Jesus appointed the "faithful and discreet slave" in 1919 to provide spiritual food. However, Ephesians 1:22-23 and Colossians 1:18 make it clear that Christ has always been the head of the Church, guiding it directly. There is no biblical basis for the claim that Jesus’ leadership over His Church was interrupted for 1800 years, only to be restored through a particular group in 1919.
5. The Historical Evidence of Christianity’s Continuity
Throughout history, Christianity has seen various denominations, reform movements, and theological developments, but the core teachings of the faith—belief in the divinity of Christ, the Trinity, and salvation through grace—have been preserved. The early Church Fathers, councils, and creeds (such as the Nicene Creed) provide clear evidence that true Christian doctrine was maintained and defended long before 1919. To suggest that Christianity was entirely apostate for such a long period ignores the contributions of these faithful Christians who upheld biblical truth.
6. The Problem of an Arbitrary Date
The choice of 1919 as the date when true Christianity was supposedly restored is problematic. This date is based on a series of speculative interpretations of events, rather than clear biblical prophecy. There is no historical or theological evidence to support the claim that Jesus appointed a new group of leaders in that year to restore true Christianity. Furthermore, if God truly intended to restore His people after centuries of apostasy, there would be more substantial and clear signs in history and scripture.
Conclusion
The claim that Christianity disappeared between the second century and 1919 and was only restored afterward is not supported by Scripture, history, or logic. Jesus promised that His Church would endure and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. While there have been periods of corruption, error, and false teachings, God’s true Church has always remained, faithfully preserving the teachings of Christ. The idea of a complete apostasy and subsequent restoration in 1919 is based on a selective and speculative interpretation of Scripture and cannot be reconciled with the broader context of Christian history and theology.
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blondie
- 2 points from the BITE Model by Steve Hassan https://freedomofmind.com/cult-mind-control/bite-model-pdf-download/
- Forbid critical questions about leader, doctrine, or policy allowed
- Phobia indoctrination: inculcating irrational fears about leaving the group or questioning the leader’s authority