Some Of Us Missing Out On Something?

by Englishman 20 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Reading through everyone's posts over the last few years. Broadly speaking, it seems that most of us left the JW's for 1 of 4 main reasons:

    1. Anger.

    2. Disappointment

    3. Realisation that it wasn't true.

    4. Desire to have some fun.

    Yet, just now and again, I pick up something else in the occasional post. Just sometimes, someone indicates that they left the JW's because they experienced what I can only describe as a higher calling, maybe a religious experience that affected them profoundly. Their leaving the JW's was not done in any angry or disappointed state, nor was it done to enable a more hedonistic life-style. Rather they left to move on to something better, something more satisfying, something that gives them a feeling of completeness and fulfilment on a spiritual level. I've even heard of someone having an experience like this overnight and waking up as a totally changed person.

    Does anyone know anyone who did this? Did it happen to you? Will it happen to anyone who left for one of the more selfish reasons?

    Are some of us missing out somewhere?

    Englishman.

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Very interesting post Englishman. I thought about my own situation and basically I went out because my faith was lost. I was always a spiritual person, I thought God listened to me when I prayed, I never dared thought he ever made things go my way because I asked,,,,,, I knew that wasn't going to happen. I did think he made it so I could endure it. I really believed that.

    My faith was lost because of the things I read in the WT own literature,,,,,way back to Russell. I was shocked, I laughed,,,,,,in that unbelievble kind of way at the silliness of some of the things I read.

    When my faith was lost, I got angry,,,,,,angry at the group of men who took it upon themselves to dictate life and death matters. All the lives lost , for so many different reasons, because they said so. And yet,,,,what hypocrites they were. I will always be most bitter about that, I guess because I feel that they have blood on their hands because of my Mother. And reading tonite , about Doodle's brother, I feel angry again at them, for his passing and for her pain.

    I tried to read the Bible on my own, I tried to listen to others talk about Jesus. I got down on my hands and knees and prayed to Jesus and asked him to be my Savior. I didnt really feel anything thou. I wanted and still want to believe in God, or Jesus or some Higher Power. I can go on with my life as it is , but I do envy those who are believers. I know I can't force myself to believe.

    I think I still have a spark of believing, which I didnt know was still there,,,because of something that happened the other nite.

    Two local boys, my son's age, got lost in the woods while hunting. The police, wildlife and fisheries, and the spot lite helicopter called the search off at 2 am. I saw one of he boy's dad in a truck stop at 1 am and he was so distraught.

    I went home ready to go out looking for the boys, it was so cold that nite,,,, but I couldnt do it because of all the teenagers at my house that nite, I had to stop them from going looking themselves.

    I found myself on my porch , praying. I didnt think about it , I just prayed to God that they would be ok, make it thru the nite,,and hopefully it wasnt a hunting accident. Like I said , I dont think God answers prayers really,,,,but it was just something I felt like doing. My youngest son, was so worried he couldnt sleep and he prayed too. He is the only one in our family to still pray before a meal.

    Thankfully the boys walked out of the woods two hours after sun up and were just fine. They were just so deep in the bayous they couldnt be seen that nite.

    I guess really,,,,,,, I am still waiting for that awaking , that really true feeling that I believe once again. It is kind of nice to think that there is still a spark of a believer somewhere deep inside of me. So, I do feel that there is something I am missing out on.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Well I must say that my way out of JWs was much a "mystic" one like you described, though it was not overnight and it did combine pretty quickly with # 3 "realisation that it was not true". Looking back, I feel it probably implied some tiredness and boredom at the JWs' teaching and routine also, but that was not conscious by then (sublimation as the only way to escape?). In fact I often thought of it as a dream such like Peter's in Acts 12: when you wake up you're really out.

  • acsot
    acsot

    I asked an ex-JW I recently came in contact with how she realized that the WTS did not have the ?truth?. She explained how she and her husband moved to serve where the ?need was great? and had to learn French. When people learn a new language they will reach a ?plateau? and sort of tread water for awhile before moving on to the next level of proficiency. When this happened to her she decided that instead of doing her personal studying in English, as she had been doing all along, she?d do it in French, and thus force herself to improve her vocabulary, etc.

    So she starts doing her Bible reading in French, and since it was so difficult, she really had to concentrate on the words themselves, which tended to push out of her mind all Watchtower-related doctrine. That?s when she realized what Jesus was all about. She started to love Jesus for the first time in her life, and could no longer stomach what the WTS teaches. She doesn?t attend any church, is not ?born-again? in the fundamentalist sense, but said she has a personal attachment and love for Jesus that would be impossible for a JW to have. So she had to leave the JWs, because of her love for Jesus.

    As we talked on the phone she sounded so happy and bubbly that I was envious of her faith. My agnosticism doesn?t give much comfort.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    acsot: I knew French was great! Wait for a few months or years and Voltaire will bring your friend kind close to you...

  • Mulan
    Mulan
    So she starts doing her Bible reading in French, and since it was so difficult, she really had to concentrate on the words themselves, which tended to push out of her mind all Watchtower-related doctrine

    That is so interesting! Dave and I found a similar situation when we would read other translations. When I was pioneering I carried an NIV translation in my bookbag because so many in our territory preferred that Bible. I have to admit it would confuse me at times because it was saying something very different than the NWT.

    We had a CO who told us not to use other translations when doing our Bible reading.

  • Joyzabel
    Joyzabel

    LOL Mulan

    We had a CO who told us not to use other translations when doing our Bible reading.

    Back in the 70's our next door neighbor at bethel, Harry Paloyan, recommended we read other translations to get the sense of what was being said. Our favorite was the old Living bible. When things started to click for me, it was reading Galations in that translation that really turned the light on about faith in Jesus. I recommend to JWs to just sit and read Galations like a novel in another translation, especially the Living and see if they get what Paul was saying.

    Otherwise, no e-man, I've not had an experience with which you describe, but I do know of JWs/xJWs who have.

    So am I missing out on something again? I always thought it was so unfair that the 144,000 got special privileges.

    In the meantime, I'm just trying to BE.

    j2bf

  • MegaDude
    MegaDude

    What led me out was a desire to be the best JW I could be. Over time I met a person who was willing to debate me, scripture vs. scripture, doctrine vs. doctrine, and took the time to research and show me the history of my own church, which I'd never known about. It was only then that I went through the realization it wasn't true, anger, dissapointment, and wanting to enjoy my life more.

  • Englishman
    Englishman
    What led me out was a desire to be the best JW I could be.

    You mean that you didn't want to be the best table-soccer player?

    Englishman.

  • Sassy
    Sassy
    as a higher calling, maybe a religious experience that affected them profoundly

    I wish that was my case. The one thing I do believe that I was taught as a JW, is that we were created with a spiritual need. I now have a void. I can't just go to another church because I already know about the hypocrasy there. I haven't prayed since the day I chose not to be a JW any more. I want to, I just don't know how to . Fortunately I feel like God is blessing me any way. I know he understands my heart and hopefully is patient till I find the way to get to him.

    I left because I simply was worn out. I decided I was sick and tired of the same old game of rules, and judgements. Tired of never being good enough. They say that our load is light when we are a JW. That is so far from the 'truth' it isn't funny.

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