You may be missing that it takes two to tango. So through sexual reproduction the parents (two) bring their own individual inherited mutations and add another 10. 2x10+10 =30. The offspring actually gets 30 mutations, not 10
A Mathematic Perspective on Evolution
by Saethydd 29 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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never a jw
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DJS
@Heaven:
Geesh. All that noise just to get laid.
I don't understand that at all, making all that noise and using all that energy just to get laid. I mean, come on, wouldn't Mr. Cricket stand out more if he STFU??? Or he could impress by going to Cricket College and making something of himself. Or buy a cool, red, fast, low CricketCar. That would impress. Not that I have personal knowledge of such (ok, I do, so sue me). But if you've ever lived in a forest environment where the guy crickets go on and on and on and on and on and on. and on. you are glad that little fly found them. They annoy the living bejeebers out of people, so it's about time they learned to pipe down and find girls the way the rest of us do. Crickets clearly are a lower evolutionary life form. Really, where on the evolutionary ladder would you be if you just made a lot of noise, blathered on and on and on and on. and on. just to get laid. I for one am pulling for the little flies. Damned narcissistic, look at me, egocentric cricket guys. They got just what they deserve - standing outside the malt shop with their slicked back hair, their sunglasses, next to their hot car with their music playing so loud that it annoys the common folk. Just to get laid. Oh wait, that's me. Geesh. All that commotion. All those words. All that noise. Just to get laid. Blah, blah, blah, look at me, I can make noise. Pick me. Pick me. Pick Me.
Just to get laid.
Geesh.
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Saethydd
Saethydd, clearly, your Father is uneducated about evolution. Perhaps it is time he read an actual science book on the subject.
Yes, for his whole life he has had simplistic arguments filled with a mountain of logical fallacies used to "disprove" evolution. That's a lot of bias to overcome before one takes an honest look at the evidence, and it is a lot easier to make a logical fallacy than it is to see one or point it out to another person.
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Heaven
DJS said: @Heaven:
Geesh. All that noise just to get laid.
LOL @ DJS! Perhaps they live with the old adage 'The Squeaky Wheel Gets the Grease'.
Many a summer night, I've laid in bed with the window open listening to the crickets thinking 'Those lucky bastards. They get more than I do!' Hahaha! I can't imagine summer without the crickets 'singing' at night. I actually like the sound.
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Vidiot
I remember in the Dover ID trial, Michael Behe had to concede that because there was so much surface area on Earth, and each square meter (on average) actually teemed with microbial life, that it was in fact a statistical inevitability that said life would evolve dynamically, continuing to do so into the macrobial stage.
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anointed1
Cofty,
You asked: ‘which books I have studied that presents the evidence for biological evolution not physics?
Other than Darwin’s Origin of Species which I read long back, I have long list of books I have read prominent among them are:
1) Theory of Island Biogeography (by E. O. Wilson and Robert MacArthur)
2) The Red Queen and Genome: A Species in 23 Chapters." (Matt Ridley)
3) The greatest show on Earth (by Richard Dawkins)
4) Selfish Gene (by Richard Dawkins)
5) Why Evolution is True (by Jerry A. Coyne)
My rating of these books is that writers are sincere people who believe first evolution as fact, and then search for evidence. But that doesn’t make them better than creationists. Besides I also read books written by Former Evolutionists who now believe in creation, and they all share this interesting view:
"The theory of evolution is not believed because of scientific evidence. It is believed DESPITE scientific evidence. Science is against the theory of evolution."
http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org/v5i10f.htm
I have observed evolutionist and creationist, capitalist and communist, JWs and Catholics are arguing—they are all concerned with protecting their own interest, not facts.
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schnell
I have observed evolutionist and creationist, capitalist and communist, JWs and Catholics are arguing—they are all concerned with protecting their own interest, not facts.
You linked to a Christian creationist website before this statement. I'm just sayin.
Evolution is the change in genetic frequency and thus heritable traits over time and succeeding generations. This happens. It's observed, and has been for ages. It's a fact.
What's your alternative theory? What's your evidence for this alternative theory?
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anointed1
schnell, you asked: What's your alternative theory? What's your evidence for this alternative theory?
Why search for the alternative theory—we have experience and evidence. I supplied sperm and my wife supplied egg—and we have two children. We have not designed sperm or egg (which obviously means someone else designed it). When we speak about design, what comes first is the DNA the code of which fills me with astonishment. Someone who writes an instruction manual does so with purpose. In every cell of our bodies there exists a very detailed instruction code, much like a miniature computer program. As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do. The DNA code in each of our cells is very similar. It's made up of four chemicals that scientists abbreviate as A, T, G, and C. These are arranged in the human cell like this: CGTGTGACTCGCTCCTGAT and so on. There are three billion of these letters in every human cell!!
Just like an employer directs his employees work, DNA instructs the cell. DNA is a three-billion-lettered program telling the cell to act in a certain way. It is a full instruction manual. One has to ask....how did this information program wind up in each human cell? These are not just chemicals. These are chemicals that instruct, that code in a very detailed way exactly how the person's body should develop. Natural, biological causes are completely lacking as an explanation when programmed information is involved. You cannot find instruction, precise information like this, without someone intentionally constructing it.
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schnell
how did this information program wind up in each human cell?
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schnell
As you may know, a computer program is made up of ones and zeros, like this: 110010101011000. The way they are arranged tell the computer program what to do.
Pet peeve: I get it, but I tire of that example, because it is not how programs are written. Binary is a numerical representation, and it is applied in computer science because of transistors being on and off, having enough power or not. Binary logic and arithmetic are important, but don't kid yourself if you think programmers are writing entire programs in binary. That would be dumb.