comment on Metaron's thread on JW's Soviet Disease

by Mulan 15 Replies latest jw experiences

  • jst2laws
    jst2laws

    Well, Chris

    I am glad to make such a mistake just to get your input. I learn more details about your long battle with the WT everytime we talk.

    Actually I was just generalizing that WT saw the problem in the way the Catholic Church handled it and it would have been a good time to change the way they handled it. But once again they chose to be the hypocrit instead.

    I'm am sorry for what you went through Chris but glad you are here telling us what really goes on.

    Steve

  • metatron
    metatron

    I just wanted to thank you for passing on my post and elicting these powerful

    observations from your friend.

    For those of us who dared to be optimistic and hoped for ethical reform of the Watchtower,

    the actual reaction is all the more sad - more propaganda, deceptions, and bold ignorance.

    I look at little things - like the "public talks" at assemblies that aren't public anymore,

    the stilted lyrics of the songbook ( "molested" bees? getting "beaten off" ?!!!) and stupid

    translations of the bible that mention the word "booty", AND I REALIZE that nothing will

    change. The old men in charge are utterly out of touch with the real world and the people

    in it. They will nag and wave their fingers menacingly - but never do anything positive

    for the friends, to relieve their burdens. Compassion and reason just aren't in them.

    metatron -thanks again, Mulan

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    Very interesting. Thanks, metatron and Mulan. You've given us much "food for thought".

    Mulan: Please thank your correspondent for those thoughts. Let him know that they were even read with appreciation downunder.

    Cheers, Ozzie

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    The things he writes are very good, aren't they? I have another piece he wrote, that he gave me permission to post, but it is pretty long for a post here. If anyone wants to read it, send me an email, and I will send it to you in Word.

    [email protected]

  • RonClawson
    RonClawson

    In your string above here, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/63736/1.ashx your friend says ? (No wonder some feel the need to keep things interesting by staking out the homes of "apostates" and taking surveillance photos of their driveways!)? I read in C of C of a home watched by binocular and also read of surveillance mentioned in other strings on jehovahs-witness.com. Is your friend referring to what they have done to himself? Perhaps you could bring this issue up on another string?

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Thank you for posting that, Mulan. Insightful observations, indeed. I have a copy of the December 15 article, excerpts below. It is as bad as your author described.

    WT December 15, 2003 - Study Article for January 19-25 ?Our Watchfulness Takes on Greater Urgency? pages 14 - 19.

    1 ?Above all other things, the twentieth century was shaped by war,? says author Bill Emmott. ...

    2 ...Moral breakdown and increase in crime and violence are evident...All this testifies that we are living in ?critical times.? - 2 Timothy 3:15-2.

    3 How do you view the worsening trend in human affairs?...This requires more than simply acknowleging that we are living in the last days, more than recognizing that times are hard. We must have firm conviction that ?the end of al things has drawn close.? (1 Peter 4:7) Only then will our wachfulness take on a sense of urgency....

    4 Consider the conditions prevailing during the time preceding a one-of-a-kind even in human history - the great Deluge of Noah?s day...

    5 It is reasonable to assume that Jehovah feels about the present world as he felt about the pre-Flood world...

    6 ...Only 120 years more and Jehovah would bring ?the deluge of waters upon the earth to bring to ruin all flesh in which the force of life is active from under the heavens.? - Genesis 6:17.

    7...What about us? Some 90 years have passed since the last days of this system of things began in 1914. We are certainly in ?the time of the end.? (Daniel 12:4).. Now is therefore the time to do Jehovah?s will with a keen sense of urgency.

    Five key similarities are listed (headings):

    • Warned of ?Things Not Yet Beheld? - a warning of coming destruction is given in no uncertain terms
    • Sexual Depravity Becomes Rampant
    • Earth Becomes ?Filled With Violence?
    • The Message is Preached
    • Only a Few Survive

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