"The Hobbit" Movie?

by Gerard 16 Replies latest social entertainment

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    I found watching the Twin Towers with the commentaries turned on at least answered questions like;

    What the DUCK is going on? That didn't happen, Aragon did NOT fall of any cliff...

    ... and;

    What in hells name are the Elves doing at Helm's Deep? They're not there! It didn't happen!

    I might not agree with what all that they did, but understanding why they did it made it more bearable.

    I think the Hobbit is a cert; New Line have half the movie rights already, apparently. A single more normal length movie would do it fine, and they might not even have to be quite so savage in cutting sections for pace.

    I also think that they could 'do' the songs, Gloin, Old Man Willow, the Barrow-Wrights, Bombadil and the last chapter of 'Return of the King', and use them in an super-extended directors cut DVD set to be released with the films re-edited to suit the extra footage and to allow the truely dedicated to wtach it all in one continuous sitting with EVERYTHING from the book.

    If they shot the live footage within the next five years so they could use the same actors it would be practical, and as there isn't 'major' CGI in any of the 'missing' scenes, quite probably very profitable as anyone who'd read the book would want the final and definative extended film version.

    Short of that the only way we could ever see a 'true' version on screen is if someone did it in weekly episodic format - like a high budget Xena. And would we watch the songs if they were there, anyway?

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim

    This would be a remake as there is already a movie titled "The Hobbit" about the adventures of Bilbo Bagins...but it's animated.

  • dh
    dh
    I also think that they could 'do' the songs, Gloin, Old Man Willow, the Barrow-Wrights, Bombadil and the last chapter of 'Return of the King', and use them in an super-extended directors cut DVD set to be released with the films re-edited to suit the extra footage and to allow the truely dedicated to wtach it all in one continuous sitting with EVERYTHING from the book.

    that would be awesome to see!

    does anyone else think that the people who read the book after the movie, or those who never read the book at all have missed out on something special? it must be more difficult to imagine the characters without the actors faces once you've seen the movie and that kills part of the magic of reading.

    anyway.

    dh'

  • Satans little helper
    Satans little helper

    I watched all the films to see if the directors vision matched what I saw in my head when I was reading the books for the gazillionth time. I've always had my head stuck in books so I pity those that have not the patience or imagination to read.

  • Reborn2002
    Reborn2002

    I for one would love to see Peter Jackson direct The Hobbit on film.

    Why? Continuity. Overall I was very pleased with his undertaking of bringing to film the mammoth Tolkien masterpiece. While I agree with others that he and the screenplay writers deviated a bit too much from the novel towards the end of The Two Towers, I was overall satisfied with the movie trilogy as it appeared at the cinema. Although I admit I would like to have seen the Elven King Gil-galad included in the opening sequence of Fellowship of the Ring fighting alongside Elendil, Gandalf break Saruman's staff at Orthanc (TTT), no Elves at Helm's Deep (TTT), Halbarad and the Dunedain arrive and ride with Aragorn through the Path of the Dead (ROTK), Wormtongue throwing the Palantir from Isengard (not just being found in the water), The Scouring of the Shire (ROTK) and the death of Saruman (ROTK) all done properly.

    In any event, I read an article on this very topic a few days ago, and Peter Jackson said in an interview that he was interested in doing the film, and that all the actors, (Ian McKellen amidst others) who play characters who do appear in The Hobbit would all return to provide the very continuity I was hoping would be preserved. J.R.R. Tolkien is undoubtedly one of my favorite authors, and I have read The Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, The Silmarillion, and the 12 seperate Appendix volumes to Middle-Earth published by Christopher Tolkien more times than I can count, so perhaps I am a bit biased.

    Now, regarding The Silmarillion, I agree with NeonMadman. I would absolutely LOVE to see this brought to film for my eyes to enjoy. However, that is being idealistic. Realistically? I do not find it possible. If it took 7 years of production and 12 hours (if you include the Extended Edition DVD) of film to do The Lord of the Rings, it would take 70 years and 1200 hours of footage to complete The Silmarillion and do it justice.

    From the Ainulindale and the Creation of Arda, Iluvatar creating the Valar, the rebellion of Melkor, the coming of the Elves, Thingol Greymantle and Melian the Maia, Aule fathering the Dwarves, the story of the Two Trees of Valinor (and it's Darkening via Morgoth and Ungoliant), The Valaquenta and Quenta Silmarillion discussing Feanor and the Silmarils, the creation of the Sun and Moon, Finrod Felagund and the Caves, Beren and Luthien recovering a Silmaril with Huan, Turgon and Gondolin, Huor, Hador Goldenhaired, Hurin and his son Turin Turambar and the dragon, the voyage of Earendil and the War of Wrath, the birth of Elrond and Elros and the creation of Numenor, the Akallabeth and Sauron's part in the downfall of Numenor.. all the way leading into the Third Age of the World and the time of the Lord of the Rings would be the greatest commitment in the history of movies to say the least.

    Alas, there is always the joy of reading it, and visualizing the events in your mind. Good topic here. Haven't posted in a long time. This certainly encouraged me too. Nice to know others enjoy the Silmarillion and Tolkien as much as I do.

  • Oxnard Hamster
    Oxnard Hamster

    Am I the only person who doesn't think Star Wars is completely hopeless? Yeah, the prequels have some noticeably problems, like the first one being a bit too much on the slapstick side, and the second one dragging on until the end. But really, I think the third episode will be great, because a lot has to happen - fall of the Jedi, Anakin turns to Darth Vader, Empire takes over, etc. - and it's going to take itself seriously.

    I think the major problem with the prequels is Lucas took too long getting to the heart of the problem, The Clone Wars. In Episode 1, I never got a sense that the galaxy was in any danger. Same with 2, until the end. In 4, the movie starts off with the Empire causing trouble, giving viewers a sense that the galaxy is in need of saving. The prequels didn't portray that as well, but I think that will be fixed in 3.

    Anyway, on the subject, I would love to see a live action "The Hobbit" movie. I always enjoyed the animated version, but a movie with live actors would be great too.

  • RubyFlame
    RubyFlame

    As long as 'The Hobbit' is as good as the 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy, it should be no problem. However, I hope that Peter Jackson broadens his directing experience Has he directed any other films besides 'Lord of the Rings' trilogy?

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