by ThiChi 29 Replies latest social current
you all make me laugh, you lambast the French press for pointing out that you are being suckered by your government when your press has been hamstrung by 'patriotism'. Isn't it interesting that as soon as anyone in the US criticises the US government they are labellled 'unpatriotic' or 'liberal' as though the government were beyond reproach.
Compare that to how the WTS controls what the flock sees and also to how the Soviets controlled thier press for years.
Wake up
ThChi:
Fine, but mis-reporting the facts? why?
Hey, ThiChi, thanks for the present; here you are, complaining about the lack of French objectivity (when the US Media err in this direction... ) and asking why facts were mis-reported (when the US government either inadvertently or with knowledge misreported facts to justify the invasion).
Don't you remember the 'freedom of the Iraqi people' has only been the reason for the war snce they failed to find the WoMD? New Light, you see...
But, anyway, that was hysterically funny; you couldn't have made yourself look sillier if you tried.
Could you now answer why the USA government misreported the facts and how come the FOX network is as objective as Pradva?
But, anyway, that was hysterically funny; you couldn't have made yourself look sillier if you tried
Abbadon, why attack the messenger? ThChi merely pointed out the non-objectivity of the French press, & did'nt say anything one way or the other about the US. Just becasue Someone doe'snt agree with one position does'nt mean they automatically agree with the other.
Personally, I find the french governments habit of running & hiding whenever there is trouble to be personally distasteful, especially as they had oil interests & deals with a corrupt government. That doe'snt mean that I'm gung ho patriotic & am not aware of the US' own long history of dealing with despots. I think both governments have problems
Were they saying the US press was objective or just noting that the French wasn't either? hhhmmm?
Personally I take most everything with a grain of salt....
but some of anti-us comments on this thread were most amusing and predictable.
Abaddon -
Could you now answer why the USA government misreported the facts and how come the FOX network is as objective as Pradva?
As I stated earlier in this thread, I personally do not believe that any one American media source is completely objective, and that if we want to find balance within our media, we need to look at different sources - not rely on just one. Now, as I am not a British citizen, nor have I ever visited there, I am curious - which British sources are completely objective? I would love to be able to access them via the net and check them out myself.
As far as the government misreporting facts, this is a real hot button for me. It seems that our world has become so accustomed to instant gratification, that many expect that the WMD's would have been found on the first day of the war, and that Saddam would have been captured on the first day of the war, and that a new and thriving Iraqi government would have been set up on the first day of the war. It don't work that way in the real world. Just because WMD have not been found, it does not mean that they will not be found. There are many unexplained events that point to the fact that Saddam definitely had something to hide, yet those who accuse others of relying on unobjective news sources and are making a mountain out of a molehill, are the same ones who turn a blind eye to these events and declare Iraq WMD-free. I've listed them below. I would love to hear your opinion on these events, especially since I've posed these questions in other threads and not one "There ain't no WMDs in Iraq" advocate has bothered to answer them. If you are as open-minded as you claim to be, I am sure you will have no qualms about answering these questions I've outlined below:
First of all, why was Saddam annexing public buildings and declaring them "Presidential Palaces", thereby exempting them from inspection, just prior to the ejection of the first inspection team?
Second, it is a proven fact that a terrorist training facility was found outside of Baghdad, with an American airplane on the premises. Why do you suppose it was there? Who do you think put it there? Who do you think used it? BBC Link: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:HVobvBBvzIwJ:news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/audio_video/programmes/panorama/transcripts/transcript_28_10_01.txt+Salman+Pak+american+airplane&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 (beginning at 30th paragraph); Mid-East Media Research Institute Link: http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP59203 ; UN News Source Link: http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iraq/salman_pak.htm
Third, it is also a proven fact that we found approximately 30 military airplanes buried as deep as 20 to 30 feet in the Iraqi desert. If Saddam would go to these lengths to hide his aircraft, how far would he go to hide his WMD that the first group of inspectors knew existed?! Chinese Media Link: http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-08/01/content_251122.htm Israeli Media Link: http://www.jinsa.org/articles/articles.html/function/view/categoryid/884/documentid/2186/history/3,884,2186 Australian Media Link: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/01/1059480557364.html
Please note that I did not use any US media sources to substantiate my claims.
SLH -
Compare that to how the WTS controls what the flock sees and also to how the Soviets controlled thier press for years.
If our press is so governmentally controlled, please tell me how politically damning stories such as the Monica Lewinsky Scandal, The Whitewater Scandal, and the Watergate Scandal surfaced in our own press?
Inquiring Minds Want to Know,
growedup
I watch CNN and FOX to try and get a balanced view. The American Press is the most free in the world -- in the UK they can get gagging orders to stop reports about Prince Charles -- in France they have privacy laws so that certian matters about politicians can not be reported -- as somebody has already questioned -- if Americas Press was not truly free -- how could Monica/Watergate and many other very embarrassing stories get FULL coverage? Not perfect but the best in the world -- biased yes --towards left -wing liberlism
PARIS - Reporter Alain Hertoghe's book accused the French press of not being objective in its coverage of the U.S.-led war in Iraq ( news - web sites). His newspaper fired him.
Well that certainly proves the French are objective. You object, you get canned
French Press Not Objective in US Iraq War
Really? Ya think?
Show me a freer Press than is had in the US.
Kind of ironic how some accuse the American press of being too patriotic, yet this article clearly shows that the French are willing to can someone who doesn't espouse the party line....
growedup
but some of anti-us comments on this thread were most amusing and predictable.
Short but sweet Xena.
