If I wasn't on their DONOTCALL I am now !

by Will Power 28 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    10:10 a.m. and 2 women with mags in hand ding dong on my door.

    Don't they know this is a do not call address?

    Well, it started out nice enough, I asked for a list of charitable works, (for other than JWs) where their soup kitchens were, how a magazine will put food on someone's table, I brought up the UN, the pedo data base, the whistleblower DFings, hoping that they'd be interested in one. They were adamant but not very convincing about all the good that they do. (cause they admitted that it was good just thru spiritual food - mags.) I asked about the "Babylon has fallen" book - do they still study that? Well no... Cause its old light? Well light gets brighter.....Like light dark, light dark, bible is 2000 yrs old, you use that! I said Come on in Okay..big smiles... I get the article about tacking, the article is copied on blue bond. "Where do you get this stuff?" Oh the Watchtower Society, this is from Apr 1, 1972, I have an extensive library..... "we go by the bible..." I read the "one and only visible organization" and ask for her to show me that in the bible...Oh, I don't have my glasses, show her, I think it is Matt...the other woman looks up something starts reading about "when did we see you hungry...." I said OH THATS ONE OF MY FAVOURITES ! That opened up the treatment of DFers.

    Jehovah will judge, Jesus will judge, well jesus is the king, jehovah is judge, yes jesus will judge for jehovah, they just couldn't get it straight.

    Well, the one lady divulges that her daughter was molested by another JW and that they prosecuted. But after a few questions the authorities aren't brought in til years later!. I ask, you mean your own daughter is being molested and you know nothing? She can't come to you to tell? I brought up the 2 witness rule, SHE ENDORSED it. I brought up rape kits etc. as the 2nd witness. Why are they DFing whistleblowers? Why the database of 23,000 names that have never been reported? My blood was starting to boil.

    Next we get on about DFs. A bum in the gutter needing food, medical aid but is dF'd, do you help? No answer. The same woman then starts talking about her sister that is df'd that she talks to & has been in on 4 of her kid's births (did that mean she speaks every 18 mos?) I asked what was she df'd for... smoking? She made a face No Adultry. (no family secrets here) Do you share a meal with her? "No, the bible says....and adds .."(prostitute story from bible where Jesus sends her away to sin no more)" Is she still doing the adultery? "Well No". Your love is conditional? What about forgiveness? Isn't that was Jesus was teaching? "She won't come back & repent,... To the Elders? Who are they Jesus Christ? Well they are appointed? By Holy Spirit? Come on lets go. says the obviously more experienced one. During this whole conversation they were backing out the door. I commented that they were just like every other religion - even their arch enemy the catholics. The other - admitted ex-catholic - started reciting the 1+1=2 ! Unbelievable! A little too far off the rehearsed conversations I guess. I could tell tho that she was trying to stop herself from thinking. The other woman got her to shut up & they were on their way. I hope a seed was planted. I said the WT must be an embarrassment to Jesus.

    Here is 1 woman that has a daughter that was molested by a fellow JW (with all that entails - shiver) and a df'd sister that is still an outcast cause she won't grovel to the elders. She is the walking reason why I have no patience for this poor excuse for a religion.

    Well I'm sure my husband will get the pity treatment next time they see him. How could he live with such a vile woman.....we'll be your refuge, we'll save you..... YACK

    It has taken me about an hour to internally calm down. Being able to vent here is going to allow me to enjoy the rest of my day.

    I hope everyone has a Happy New Year.

    Will P

  • Mulan
    Mulan

    Good job!!

    I got a call yesterday from the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City. It seems one of my Malaysian friends, is a bishop or something with the church in Malaysia. I knew he had been in SLC recently, because he called me one night. We talked a bit about religion, but I made it clear to him I was not interested in joining another church. Well, he put my name and phone number on some list, and this gal was following up, and wanted to send me a tape about their church. I thanked her but "no thanks..........I was part of a religion for 50 years that is similar to the Mormons" and she asked what religion I had been before. Of course she said "we are NOTHING like Jehovah's witnesses". I said "I know you don't believe that, but you are". A little more sparring and her giving me their "canned replies", and I said "I know you are sincere, but I used to say the same things you are saying to prospective converts. You are very similar to JW's, maybe not doctrinally, but the way you control your members, you are. And I just am not interested". So she replied "We have lots of freedom" and I said "I know you believe that and I used to think I was free too," and I hung up.

    It does feel good!

  • Billygoat
    Billygoat
    I said the WT must be an embarrassment to Jesus.

    Wow! Beautiful comment. And great story Will! Good on you. I am waiting for an opportunity like this and just can't get one. *sigh* One of these days, I hope to "un-witness" a Witness. LOL!

    Andi

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    How dare you attack Jehover?s Organization???????
    Oooooooo! Such a horrible jezebel!!!

  • ApagaLaLuz
    ApagaLaLuz

    Very, Very, good. If I had been at your door though, I would have said "come on let's go" a long time ago. It's obvious you are a mouthpiece for Satan.

    Bravo! What a good "witness" you provided

  • morty
    morty

    Will,

    You go girl....

    I wish I had all the come-backs for when they show up at my door...I always know what to say, 5 mins after they leave and I have gathered my thoughts and I am not a raging bull....

    BTW.... did they ask for a small contirbution??...Do they still ask for this, even when they are dodging bullets..

  • Winston Smith :>D
    Winston Smith :>D

    It has taken me about an hour to internally calm down.

    Will P

    I was getting worked up just reading that!

    The woman who had a child molested and a sister DF'd are the hardcore R&F that infiriate me. Hopefully her less experienced tager-along will think about all the shat that the WTS stuffs down her throat.

    You must have been filled with the Wholly Spear-It to give such a wonderfully upbuilding witness

  • Will Power
    Will Power

    You got that right with the 5 minute later thing.

    I wish I could have done all the nice head nodding, add an idea, drop a seed, head nod, blah blah, but I am so passionate about what they do to families that it takes all my WILL POWER to hold my tongue and keep on topic, calmly. Maybe get another call back. I forgot to mention about the time they'd be writing down...will god be asking for this file in the end?

    I have to share this computer today so additions to this topic will be sporatic.

    WP

  • blondie
    blondie
    I read the "one and only visible organization" and ask for her to show me that in the bible...Oh, I don't have my glasses, show her, I think it is Matt...

    The above is what jumped out at me, Will Power. What JW would go out to teach people about the Bible and not have their glasses with them!!!!!

    I guess JWs don't have to be able to read to go in the ministry.

    Matthew 15:14
    LET them be. Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit." Blondie
  • kj
    kj

    Wooo hooo! You go!

    kj

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