by outbutnotdown 24 Replies latest jw friends
Here's two whoppers:
That they deserve any credibility after one hundred and twenty years of false prophecy and false expectations
That early Christians used the name "Jehovah" or Yahweh to any great degree - to the frequent exclusion of Jesus' name,
as Witnesses do today.
metatron
The biggest lie is that everything they say is "the truth" and that they never tell lies; they are called adjustments and clarifications.
Blondie
Instead of looking for lies (error) in the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation's work, why not first look at your own assumptions and give those weight and value or eliminate them? You will have a much higher value on your time. If you can't identify and list your assumptions, you don't understand the issue enough to look for error.
When I looked at the Watch Tower, most of the error I found was my own. My assumption there is a malevolent invisible god with ex-ray vision and divisions and plots and personalities like Thoth, Isis, and Osiris were rooted in mythology and rated a zero on the value meter. The Hebrew people admit to creating the concept of an invisible god and the Encyclopedia Britannica shows how the sacred texts were products of humans.
God is a human creation, The Bible is a human creation, I can find no rational evidence of life after death, All authority is conditional and subjective, Reality is perception. All my assumptions were myth and superstition and tradition and had no value in pragmatic decision making.
How can I look for error in a religion when my own ideas were so flawed? An interesting thing happens when I accept reality . . . . I quit caring about religious teachings. I start caring about human things, like how do people treat me and people who are important to me? How can I quit being used and start to make my time count for something real?
Thanks for the topic. Made me think.
Even their Name, "Jehovah" is a lie.........
Badboy: They even lie about that! A KM once stated that it was "...MAY never die."
Wow! Excellent post!
dustyb - when you set your mind to something, you just take yourself to the limit! Is this the same guy who didn't realize any of the things you listed (other than 1914) just a few short days ago?!!! You have been studying hard and it shows! Great job!
Gary - I agree with you that one can not see what is wrong unless one begins searching for one's self. Seeing through someone else's eyes is a whole different animal than seeing through your own.
Nathan - As I was never a baptised witness, every now and then I come across a particular doctrine that either I've not heard before, or is described in jargon I am not familiar with. Of your list, numbers 1 through 4 don't ring any bells for me. Since I don't want to hijack the thread, if you wouldn't mind, would you or someone else please pm me on this, or point me in the direction of where I can research this on my own? I'd sure appreciate it!
There are some really good points here - but I also think that the absolute biggest lie - and the lie on which everything else is based - is that the WTBTS speaks for God. Everything else stems from there.
growedup
www.jwfiles.com has an incredible website with many, many things that the WTBTS has gotten wrong and has scans too.
The biggest lie. The one that is the foundation of all their other lies is that, "THEY ARE GODS CHANNELL ON EARTH, THE VISIBLE PORTION OF HIS ORGANIZATION!" Without this lie, they can claim no authority to govern others! Maverick
And the winner is Maverick! Bingo dude! All of their OTHER LIES.....hinge on this. Gumby
Brenda:
Except for Number 5, that could be ANY Christian church!
You guys must have an interesting range of denominations over there. I've never been to a church yet, that did that. Barring the more extreme denominations, most here are clear that they are part of the universal "church".
One of the biggest lies I have found out is that Charles Taze Russell was not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses.
I have found this web site that is quite incrediable and thought I would share it with you.
http://www.nsbible.org./ctr.htm
I was astounded by what I have read thus far. Lies are perpetuated by JW's and it takes one lie to cover another lie to support the first lie and so on and so on. And then it is one viscious cycle. Before you know it everything from its inception are lies. Who is the Father of the Lie? That red rider none other than the Devil himself. So your foundation is a lie and as a result the structure will not stand. Oh maybe for while but not forever.
Love ya all
Orangefatcat...
the bs about FDS, a group of senile old men, having a direct T1 line to Jerhover.
caveman
