venting: My wife is the most dangerous kind of JW (page 2)

JimmyYoung

My advise is that if she can not see the cult for what it is you staying with her only makes you miserable. You may have to think of breaking it off and living a life worth living. Don't stay just to stay you only make the both of you miserable.

smiddy3

Some people do not know how to live in this world unless they are told by another person what to do or how to live .

Such as a Priest or an Elder .Who they believe is an authority from God on the subject.

Sad but true.

The Fall Guy

Sounds like your home-situation merits the phrase, "silence is golden."

Explain to your wife that for the both of your sakes, no discussions or arguments regarding religious beliefs should ever be raised again in your home. Remind her of her scriptural 'subjection' if need be.

It may transpire that she is "won without a word" from you - because the governing body & Co. are doing a very good job of alienating JW's. Hang in there - she'll get the message sooner or later.

truth_b_known

10 Immediately by night the brothers sent both Paul and Silas to Be·roeʹa. On arriving, they went into the synagogue of the Jews. 11 Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thes·sa·lo·niʹca, for they accepted the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. Acts 17:10, 11

The Apostle Paul penned these words. He declared the Beroeans as "more noble minded" for carefully examing Paul's teachings against what the scriptures state.

If the Beroeans were complemented and held in high esteem by an actual Apostle, personally sent by the resurrected Jesus himself, by verifying his teachings through independent study. Why can't Jehovah's Witnesses take the words of the Watchtower and its Governing Body to do the same thing? Were the Beroeans chastised or disfellowshipped by the congregation in Jerusalem for doing such thing? Who is more trusty worthy - an Apostle who is spirit anointed or 8 imperfect men who believe they are annointed?

kairos

Sounds like my JW ex-wife.

Loyal to death.
Will follow any orders.

Such a waste.

My Name is of No Consequence

@ goingthruthemotions:

I been there before.

blondie

truth_b_known

Actually, in only one place does the WTS put a different spin on Acts 17:10,11 showing that the Bereans approach was not the same for baptized jws.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1981127?q=acts+17%3A10%2C11&p=sen

A NOBLE-MINDED VIEW

How shall we view the spiritual food provided by this “faithful and discreet slave”? Should it be viewed critically—‘Oh, well, it might be true but then again it might not be and so we have to scrutinize it very critically’? Some apparently have felt that way about it. To support their way of thinking they have quoted Acts 17:11, which says of newly interested persons at Beroea: “Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.”

But does this mean that those Beroeans were looking for flaws in the message they were hearing, or that their attitude was one of doubting? Does this set a precedent for regarding critically the publications brought forth by the “faithful and discreet slave,” with a view to finding fault? Not at all!

First of all, let us note the setting of the statement about the noble-minded Beroeans. Paul, accompanied by Silas, was on his second missionary tour. Due to persecution that arose, the brothers at Thessalonica sent them on to Beroea. In Beroea they met sincere Jews who had strong faith in God’s Word. These were not Christians yet. They were simply interested persons who had to satisfy themselves that what Paul was telling them had the support of the Hebrew Scriptures.

Up to this time, these devout Jews in Beroea may never have heard of Jesus Christ. What Paul was telling them was entirely new. So those noble-minded Jews in Beroea searched the Scriptures daily to make certain that the references that Paul gave were really part of God’s Word. And with what mental attitude did they pursue their studies? With a skeptical attitude, trying to prove Paul wrong? No, they were altogether unlike Paul’s critics on Mars Hill, for we read that they heard Paul’s testimony with “the greatest eagerness of mind.”—Acts 17:11, 32.

These Beroeans listened with a readiness, yes, an eagerness, to believe. Thus not only were they open-minded, but they were wanting to have this “good news” proved true. In fact, for a person to acquire faith he must have “the will to believe.” If he is determined not to believe, then no amount of evidence will convince him; for if a person looks for them he can always find excuses, plausible reasons for not accepting the accountability that belief will bring upon him. As the apostle Paul well said: “Faith is not a possession of all people.” (2 Thess. 3:2) But the Beroeans had the will to believe. They considered what they heard with a receptive frame of mind. As a result, “many of them became believers, and so did not a few of the reputable Greek women and of the men.”—Acts 17:12.

Jesus’ disciples wrote many letters to Christian congregations, to persons who were already in “the way of the truth.” (2 Pet. 2:2) But nowhere do we read that those brothers first, in a skeptical frame of mind, checked the Scriptures to make certain that those letters had Scriptural backing, that the writers really knew what they were talking about.

OUR VIEW OF THE “SLAVE”

We can benefit from this consideration. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his “slave” to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. We should have confidence in the channel God is using. At the Brooklyn headquarters from which the Bible publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses emanate there are more mature Christian elders, both of the “remnant” and of the “other sheep,” than anywhere else upon earth.

True, the brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18) However, this has resulted in a continual refining of the body of Bible-based truth to which Jehovah’s Witnesses subscribe. Over the years, as adjustments have been made to that body of truth, it has become ever more wonderful and applicable to our lives in these “last days.” Bible commentators of Christendom are not inspired either. Despite their claims to great knowledge, they have failed to highlight even basic Bible truths—such as the coming Paradise earth, the importance of God’s name, and the condition of the dead.

Rather, the record that the “faithful and discreet slave” organization has made for the past more than 100 years forces us to the conclusion that Peter expressed when Jesus asked if his apostles also wanted to leave him, namely, “Whom shall we go away to?” (John 6:66-69) No question about it. We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the “faithful and discreet slave” organization.

VIII

When someone is in a cult and brainwashed it is hard to reason with them. My whole family is in and I deal with this almost daily when I speak to my 80-YO Mother. She is the picture of Stepford JW woman. She recites the bible verses, the mags, the books, and other propaganda; I know the stuff by heart.

She also drove off my father because she was looking for a better model to take into Paradise after Armageddon (1975). Unfortunately, for her, the Big A never occurred and she was left alone. She has countless female friends just like her. There is something in that KH water...

If you want to stay married use the "Subjection" card. Even my Mom was biting her tongue when Dad told her to do something and he said "I'm the man and in charge, the Bible says so..."

If you don't, well, you have so many avenues to have her kick you to the curb as an Apostate.

The tough part is a JW will bring up "This System" and how bad the world is to try to suck you back in. I just grunt and say I have to use the bathroom and get off the phone.

Good luck.

truth_b_known

Blondie -

eisegesis noun

eis·ege·sis | \ ˌī-sə-ˈjē-səs , ˈī-sə-ˌjē- \

plural eisegeses\ ˌī-sə-ˈjē-ˌsēz , ˈī-sə-ˌjē- \

Definition of eisegesis

: the interpretation of a text (as of the Bible) by reading into it one's own ideas

— compare EXEGESIS

You are so right,

pale.emperor

My go to line is:

Do you think your organisation is perfect?

No

So what’s wrong with it?

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